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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    As for the cute thing, I haven't found a puppy yet that isn't cute.
    oh ive seen a damn ugly whippet cross jack poor bugger couldnt find a home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    See I live in a different world. HOW do they spout it to ppl? TV ads? newspaper ads? Bulletins? mags? HOW?
    Even vets perptuate this. When I first got Jenna and took her for her puppy check. My vet told me that crossbreeds are generally 'healthier'. I guess if they are telling people that, then those people go and tell their friends etc and before you know it, it becomes common knowledge that 'crossbreeds are healthier'
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    Thanks TKay, that's quite sad.

    I think sometimes ppl will do what they want, regardless of advice given. We could talk till dooms day on here to ppl about puppy mills, back yard breeders, disreputable pet shops and the likes, and try to educate them on the dangers and pitfalls, but at the end of the day some ppl will still just ignore it all and go and buy whatever they see fit at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    I don't mind you using my name at all. Everything I am writing it from personal experience. Like I said I WISH I knew then what I knew now! IMO the waiting for a puppy and talking to a breeder about your home and family is completely and utterly worth it to have that support and peace of mind!

    Other people have suggested rescue groups which, AFAIK, give owners the same type of support as breeders do. For me, and I'm assuming for many other first timers, its the support that would mean the most!
    Amy...I thought you came on here at the beginning (wanting a Beagle or Cav x)...people gave you advice about BYB...Puppy Mills...cross breeds etc and then you STILL went out and bought Poppy? Am I right? I could of course be way off the mark here.........

    If I am right....then you did know what you know now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Amy...I thought you came on here at the beginning (wanting a Beagle or Cav x)...people gave you advice about BYB...Puppy Mills...cross breeds etc and then you STILL went out and bought Poppy? Am I right? I could of course be way off the mark here.........

    If I am right....then you did know what you know now
    Yep, your right. I did. BUT I didn't think the seller I got poppy from was a BYB or a that Poppy was from a puppy mill. I had some knowledge but not all the knowledge I have now. I didn't realise crossbreeder = NO good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    I think its generally done in a face to face context, over the phone or via email. The ad's in TV, newspapers, mags, pet shops, websites etc all add to it. I think those are what entice people to persue crossbred puppies. JMO.

    I just wanted to add that the people who go about informing new and first time puppy owners about this stuff probably do it for their own gain and/or are not in any way shape or form knowledgable themselves but as a beginner in the doggy world its easy to believe these people know more than you!
    I do not think I have ever seen an add on tv or any media apart from pet shop walls or online adds written by the people selling the pups. Even on those I haven't seen the word, - cross breed so better then pure! -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Amy...I thought you came on here at the beginning (wanting a Beagle or Cav x)...people gave you advice about BYB...Puppy Mills...cross breeds etc and then you STILL went out and bought Poppy? Am I right? I could of course be way off the mark here.........

    If I am right....then you did know what you know now
    You are right, partially. She did come here first, she thought the lady she brought poppy from was doing the right thing and didn't understand how it was wrong.

    The information given to her was done so judgementally, just as what is happening here. IMO so far Amy has given the best, most helpful advice in this thread. I've just read through the entire thing too.

    I know Amy didn't understand it because I explained to her what was wrong with the picture myself. I did it without judging her, without telling her she's a bad person for getting Poppy the way she did.

    Fair enough we all tried to explain it, BUT no-one did it in a way that was understandable. I'm certain that she felt judged, isolated, attacked and upset about the way the information was first presented to her.

    I agree that BYB, Mills/Farmers, Pet shops and purpose bred crosses are a very bad thing. The start of it was Don Burke btw, and even I believed him at the time.

    We can spout off how bad these people are all we like, but until we try to be more understanding of those who don't know any better, they're going to go RUNNING to those who support them and tell them they are doing the right thing (even if those same people are the ones doing the wrong thing).

    I hope you can understand what I'm saying here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebec View Post
    I do not think I have ever seen an add on tv or any media apart from pet shop walls or online adds written by the people selling the pups. Even on those I haven't seen the word, - cross breed so better then pure! -
    Don Burke of Burkes Backyard spouted it for years! Even Dr Harry Cooper spouts it, owns and 'breeds' them himself. It's seriously stuffed up.

    I don't think crosses are bad, but if you want one, go to the pounds, go to the shelters and get them from there, it may take a while to find the right one but you'll have saved a life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    Don Burke of Burkes Backyard spouted it for years! Even Dr Harry Cooper spouts it, owns and 'breeds' them himself. It's seriously stuffed up.

    I don't think crosses are bad, but if you want one, go to the pounds, go to the shelters and get them from there, it may take a while to find the right one but you'll have saved a life!

    Look im not trying to argue with anyone, I just don't think its a common thing to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebec View Post
    I do not think I have ever seen an add on tv or any media apart from pet shop walls or online adds written by the people selling the pups. Even on those I haven't seen the word, - cross breed so better then pure! -
    I don't think I explained that part well. What I was trying to say was that the media (including TV as thats where pet shops advertise) promote crossbreeds an awful lot and make it easy for the consumer to access a puppy in this way.

    Its then when people come into contact with crossbreed sellers that the information is passed on. JMO,

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