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    Mine are out two weeks after the first vac.

    Yes I would take the dog with me provided the other dog will be a good influence and you know the people well. You can't board a dog until it has had all it's vac's C5 + 2 weeks.

    But I repeat I do this at my own risk.

    The vet will never say to do it. They are looking at it from a health perspective, whereas I'm looking at it from of socialisation point of view.

    It's one of those things where I am prepared to take the risk, but understand if other do not and again it is a risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    Mine are out two weeks after the first vac.

    Yes I would take the dog with me provided the other dog will be a good influence and you know the people well. You can't board a dog until it has had all it's vac's C5 + 2 weeks.

    But I repeat I do this at my own risk.

    The vet will never say to do it. They are looking at it from a health perspective, whereas I'm looking at it from of socialisation point of view.

    It's one of those things where I am prepared to take the risk, but understand if other do not and again it is a risk.
    Actually MAC, it depends which vet you talk to.

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    I found out from my vets the areas roughly where the parvo cases had come in, made sure I went nowhere near there and I took Batty EVERYWHERE! He comes with hubby and I when we go down to the shops to pick up bread and milk (for example), sits with us when we have lunch at a cafe (outside obviously), he comes for every incidental car ride and he comes for every single walk. He even does the airport trips with us when we're picking people up or dropping them off.

    IMO You have to balance the risk out with the benefits of socialisation. Everywhere I have been with Batty, including many places he is theoretically not supposed to go, he has been welcomed, gushed over, patted and fussed over by nearly everyone. He, as Amy can vouch for, is a very happy, balanced, welcoming pup and I am doing everything I can to ensure that he continues to grow in that balanced manner. Yes he clings to me a bit when I'm around, but he doesn't fret when I'm not there.

    IMO Get James out, get him experiencing the world. Heck, Batty comes when we go to pick up chinese or pizza for dinner, I stand outside with him while hubby goes in to collect the food and vice versa. The more he sees and experiences now, the better he will be in the long run.

    Oh, and IMO if he gets scared of something, don't fuss, just show him that it's nothing to be scared of. I do this by walking up to the item if I can and touching it saying "See, what're you worried about?" and he'll come up and have a sniff, usually paw it once and he won't flip the next time we see the same item.

    I don't know if I've just said anything useful or not I think I may have rambled a bit, my apologies if I did

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    Glad to hear it. There's so many varying opinions along each stop of the vaccination spectrum I feel like I'm constantly hopping from foot to foot with each new thing I read.

    Off our guts, we're more than happy to let him go but there is the nagging worry that keeps being reinflamed when reading certain things, that I've severely underestimated the frequency of diseases that affect dogs. Always good to ask questions and have things clarified.

    Will need to check on their dog's temperament - he's always struck me as a very calm, independent dog but I've no idea how he is with other dogs. James has been specifically invited though, so I'm hoping they're confident of their dog's behaviour. I'm very keen for him to go (obviously under very close observation) due to the number and varying ages of people attending - he's never met anyone under 10. And I'd like him to be exposed to the chooks and mini horses. Obviously no substitute for the full-sized thing, but we get a lot of horse riders around our local park so early training around other animals is essential.

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    You are quite right DA, but I get very cagey giving out advice re health on the forum for obvious reasons and wouldn't want anyone to go against their vets advice. If their vet is of the "new school" and says get your puppy out there then they can discuss with them the pros and cons much better than I.

    I will state quite clearly that my puppies will attend the Whippet show at 11 wks of age. They will be carried onto the grounds and sit in their play pen. Will this guarantee that they don't catch something; no. But it is a situation that I feel I can't just plonk them into in a couple of months time and expect them to "suck it up".

    If I hear any dog gaging or looking unwell I will be prepared to forfeit and come home. But you can't always tell and disease can be on the ground or floating in the air.

    For me the vet clinic is one of the best places to catch something yet puppy pre-school is held there. Now to me that seems weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    I don't know if I've just said anything useful or not I think I may have rambled a bit, my apologies if I did
    Haha, no, you've been very helpful.

    James has already resulted in us meeting or becoming reacquainted with most of our neighbours down our end of the cul-de-sac Nothing like a dog to bring people together. He's very social - he loves people (and their dogs) and they love him so we will start getting him out more now.

    The car is his Achille's heel. We had initially planned to take him on all car trips (that he wouldn't have to be left in the car for at the destination) but he gets quite unhappy in the car and I've been more than a little slow with getting him positively, "step-by-step" acquainted with the car. My bad.

    We've been dying to start taking him for short, exploratory (for him) walks around the area - will check with the vet if there've been any outbreaks and be less hesitant about getting him out now

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    My brothers dog was here on the weekend. He hadn't met such young puppies for a while but we have a few runs he could of gone into if things had turned bad.

    But as I suspected he was very gentle, more so than their mother, and took all their hassling in his stride.

    I'd pack a crate or something or if you know they've got different fences areas then I'd go for it.

    I like for dogs to meet off home turf, even if it's just down on the street or the start of the driveway or something.

    I'm not sure how big your puppy is but I pick puppy up get some food put it to their nose then bend down with your puppy's rear to the older dog and let the older dog sniff, that way the older dog doesn't need to chase the puppy to get a good sniff which can sometimes scare the puppy particularly if their is a size difference.

    Or you could do the same thing thru mesh fencing. Gives all dogs time to settle down and breath in each other scent.

    Hope you have a great easter? and it all goes well.

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    The car is one where I'm actually really bad with Batty.

    I'll start by saying "Hey Batty, Do you want to go for a Drive??" in a high pitched, happy voice. "Come on, lets get dressed and go for a Drive!" He'll race over to the hook where the leash is kept and sit there wriggling waiting for his collar and leash to go on. "Come on, lets get in the car!" and he'll race to the back door and sit waiting there for me to let him in. I pick him up and put him in, I don't like him jumping in there yet, I clip him into the seat and ask him to "Take a seat or lay down please" and he'll either sit or drop on the seat, and relax until we get there. People say not to make a fuss, I do, he actually enjoys the car because of it. I make it exciting to get in, I make it fun when we're departing as well as when we arrive at the destination. I know it won't work for everyone, but it works brilliantly for us.

    I do the same thing for walks, but he knows he needs to sit there until I have his collar and leash on, he has learnt that I walk through the door first and that he'll walk calmly without pulling on the lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    You are quite right DA, but I get very cagey giving out advice re health on the forum for obvious reasons and wouldn't want anyone to go against their vets advice. If their vet is of the "new school" and says get your puppy out there then they can discuss with them the pros and cons much better than I.
    I will state quite clearly that my puppies will attend the Whippet show at 11 wks of age. They will be carried onto the grounds and sit in their play pen. Will this guarantee that they don't catch something; no. But it is a situation that I feel I can't just plonk them into in a couple of months time and expect them to "suck it up".

    If I hear any dog gaging or looking unwell I will be prepared to forfeit and come home. But you can't always tell and disease can be on the ground or floating in the air.

    For me the vet clinic is one of the best places to catch something yet puppy pre-school is held there. Now to me that seems weird.
    Understand what you mean precisely. I know 'old school' vets who push the modern belief, and I know 'new school' vets who push the old beliefs. Hard for ppl to learn anything isn't it.

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    Just an update. He's back from the vet and was a champ. The vet nurses love him, and vice versa He's going to love when he gets to come along to puppy preschool next week. And I got to practicing "Sit, Stay, Come" whilst payment was processing and he was brilliant, despite being very distracted and eager to see everything. I'm thrilled with that - I had him pegged as a hard case when we got around to dealing with distractions.

    As for the vaccinations, his vet is happy for him to (cautiously avoiding dog faeces) to start visiting the park down the road as apparently we're a low parvo/high vacc compliance suburb.

    We ran into a colossal English mastiff on the way out who was just lovely and more than happy to have James in his face, investigating his huge jowls. Pup, of course, came out of it covered in drool, but they were both happy. What gorgeous dogs! A bit disarming to turn around and see a large pony-sized animal staring at you through the door, but very well tempered.

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