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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    Thanks. I know that me bursting into tears didn't help the situation but I'm a first time puppy owner who has never seen my dog sick. I am going to react in an emotional way. Thats just the sort of person I am. She didn't even realise I was crying and stressed. As I was collecting her poo sample she was chasing me trying to play.

    Either way, like I said, I am much happier now having been to the vet and having covered all bases!
    Amy...she DOES realise when you are upset and emotional. Dogs are mood gauges and can feel/sense every change in your mental/psychological state! They do not distinguish between you being cranky with your hubby and being cranky at them...all they can feel is the energy in the environment!

    People who are anxious by nature will more than likely have anxious dogs...people who are balanced and calm will have calm dogs (in most cases...there of course are exceptions to that rule).

    I am not trying to be rude Amy, because we were ALL first time dog owners at one stage. You have got to let her be a dog or else quite frankly...you are going to "ruin" her. She will end up like a spoilt child who chucks tantrums when she doesn't get what she wants and will therefore not be a balanced and happy dog.

    I did exactly what you are doing with my Odin...Amy! The difference is...he ended up a 55kg male Rottweiler with a VERY big set of teeth and an even bigger attitude. I LOVED Odin...he was gorgeous! We trained ever day (obedience/Show/Schutzhund training)...spent almost 24 hours a day together and it was great. But what I also created was a dog who was EXTREMELY dependent on me and VERY protective of me to the point of him protecting me if hubby touched me...NOT good. As you might know...this story does not end good Amy, because he attacked my 2 sons and then my husband one morning...he simply snapped!

    Dogs are not happy being treated like humans, because they are not humans...they are canines. They have different needs to us, but that doesn't mean you can't love her...just love her for what she is...your dog and not your child.

    I beg you to listen to me here...you have got to distance yourself a bit to "create" a happy, independent, balanced and calm dog that can deal with every situation in life!!! You have got to take a "chill pill" for the sake of your dog, because I honestly think your anxiety is contributing to her issues.

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    Thanks for putting it clearer than I am, Clea. I am getting so frustrated so I may bow out of these threads.

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    I agree with what Cleas has said. We think it makes them happy but in reality it doesn't. With a Cavalier you can get away a lot more than with other breeds, but still her overall happiness I'm sure is your No.1 priority.

    Dogs are amazingly resilient animals or they wouldn't put up with the crap that people do to them and still bounce back to some degree the way they do.

    But they are also opportunists and will take advantage of what is offered.

    I'm not having a go Amy, really I'm not, I'm aware that you are a first time dog owner that's why advice is offered. I know you are a first time dog owner who wants to get it right.

    But I'd like to tell you about a dog at the kennels I worked in. He is a Rotti, came to the kennels at about 15mths old from working lines. Primarily for man work. The staff feed him, give him cuddles, love him etc and yet when his trainer comes for him he will drop us like a lead balloon.

    With him he is not dog aggressive, he will not even look at another dog. He lives for the sleeve work & this man. He can put his head into the chickens food bucket with a chicken still in it and pull out his kong.

    He has never been hit or mistreated and now attends lectures etc with his trainer in a room full of other dogs, remember he came to us dog aggressive, he works for both food and toys, but mainly a kong toy that he is not given at any other time but training.

    He literally worships the ground his trainer walks on. Because his trainer gives him what he wants most in this world and that is someone to respect and give him the exercise and mental stimulation he craves and to be treated like a dog. He does not come in the house.

    In different hands this dog who has the ability to determine friend or foe in a slit second would have been an entirely different dog and certainly not one I would of felt comfortable walking into his kennel. But all staff after a 6 month probation & training period do.

    Poppy is a Cav but she will still want the same things from you, she is after all a dog.
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    Can you please give me some practical examples of what I am doing that will "ruin" her?

    I honestly respect everyones opinion but I feel that is a fairly bold statement. I will not make apologies for reacting in an emotional way this morning. I was not a blubbering mess on the floor, I was not howling, it was a few tears and then I thought suck it up and deal with it.

    You all harp on about education and how the general public needs more education. Well here I am! Educate me! Don't tell me I am frustrating and have nothing constructive to say!

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    You have been given good advice in every thread you have posted. My advice is read back through them as it seems you have not really taken a lot of it on board.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Amy, perhaps you could make an effort to post your comments with a little more respect? All members here have seriously tried to respect you for some time IMO.

    You appear to have asked members here to help educate you, yet you refer to it as 'harping.' Do you see what I mean?

    Firstly, get any holes or gaps in the fence that you think Poppy may be able to escape through fixed. Give her a good amount of time in the yard. That will certainly go a long way to developing confidence and independence in your dog. Not to mention her ability to run and romp safely without fear of hurting herself on furniture etc...

    That would be an ideal start. It would also go a long way in permanent toilet training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    Can you please give me some practical examples of what I am doing that will "ruin" her?

    I honestly respect everyones opinion but I feel that is a fairly bold statement. I will not make apologies for reacting in an emotional way this morning. I was not a blubbering mess on the floor, I was not howling, it was a few tears and then I thought suck it up and deal with it.

    You all harp on about education and how the general public needs more education. Well here I am! Educate me! Don't tell me I am frustrating and have nothing constructive to say!
    Hi Amy, from what I gather from what every one is saying is that maybe you need to allow Poppy to be a little bit independant and allow her to have a bit of ruff and tumble, time out to be a dog. All dogs will get the runs from different things being food or allegens in the environment or possibly nervous stomach. It is okay for a dog to have occassional runs as long as the next day they start getting back to normal. Also it is okay for a dog to go a day without food. Some trainers actually say that some breeds need a starve day a week and then they won't get lazy with their food. The other thing I noticed from other peoples advice is that dogs are very good at picking up when you are happy, when you are sad, when you are cranky. You don't have to say anything or do anything for them to pick up on your feelings, so possibly when you are sad or frustrated, Poppy feels this too and it could be upsetting her little tummy. I am not sure what to advise, but dogs need to have a little independence to be dogs and we as humans need to give them an emotionally even environment. Maybe if you are feeling frustrated or sad or cranky, let Poppy out into your yard (that is if it is fenced and safe environment) and let her play while you take a few deep breaths and get to an even emotion. Anyway, hope that things get better for you.

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    You MOTHER her Amy and THAT will ruin her. You have said it yourself...that you mother her!

    How much time do you spend a day obedience training her? How much time does she spend by herself? How often is she allowed to rump around...being a dog...getting dirty, wet, muddy and entirely "disgusting" to look at?

    You can choose to get defensive or you can choose to listen really! Have a look back at your threads Amy! It is not just one person saying they are getting frustrated here.

    Education...we ARE educating you. We told you NOT to feed her...and you came back and said something along the lines of...but she is in the kitchen looking for food...and then you offered her bloody rice which she didn't eat. Education only works if you actually listen to the advice.

    Amy...I don't HAVE to give you advice...I could simply ignore your posts. I give you advice because frankly...I HAVE had more dogs than you and yes therefore will know more than you!

    After this post I will bow out too, because honestly I feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall.

    You NEED to distance yourself from Poppy and let her be a dog!

    Over and out for me

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    Well your description of "bursting into tears" did it for me.

    I had a day where all 7 had the runs. I couldn't burst into tears I had to evaluate what happened that might have caused it.

    My SS school has just phoned to say he had a collision with another child and has a bloody nose and can they give him panadol. I've said yes, let him rest and tell him I'll be there in an hour because I think bringing him home through the hairpin bends will not benefit him right at this moment. And being an emotional first time mum will not help him either.

    So here I sit.

    You are very sensitive where Poppy is concerned and believe me as someone who has spend the last 20 years working with dogs I want nothing more than to reach thru the computer and HELP you in ANY way I can. If I sometimes come across harsh it's because I have a care for Poppy and she's not even my own.

    Not so much in a training sense there are others on here giving you help in that direction so you don't need another person doing that, but I'm trying to help you with the other aspects of dog ownership. I'm also trying to determine your personality over the internet and maybe I've got that wrong.

    My brother does no formal training with his dog but his calm, assertive body language and personality can train a dog to be a perfect pet. No it doesn't sit, drop or do anything more fancy than "wait there" and it does, happily and confidently that he will return. So being calm, quiet and in control can make a huge difference to all aspects of dog ownership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Amy, perhaps you could make an effort to post your comments with a little more respect? All members here have seriously tried to respect you for some time IMO.

    You appear to have asked members here to help educate you, yet you refer to it as 'harping.' Do you see what I mean?

    Firstly, get any holes or gaps in the fence that you think Poppy may be able to escape through fixed. Give her a good amount of time in the yard. That will certainly go a long way to developing confidence and independence in your dog. Not to mention her ability to run and romp safely without fear of hurting herself on furniture etc...

    That would be an ideal start. It would also go a long way in permanent toilet training.
    Forgive me if I am a little off put by the statement that I am going to "ruin" my dog! Especially after I started this thread for support.

    The gaps in the fence are our weekend job. I completely took the advice on board and feel as though that was indicated in that thread by my responses. Ie - asking for further clarification about HOW exactly to sucessfully patch up holes.

    I have said before that one days we are home with her (at least 4 out of 7) she has fee access to the yard and does spend time out there building her independence. I do not follow her around like I once did. I have taken A LOT on board from the advice of members of this forum and I have learn't A LOT and it honestly saddens me that I am now being pinned as "fustrating"! Not a nice feeling at all.

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