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    Quote Originally Posted by Masha View Post
    Alright, I just fed her using TOT.
    As per usual, when i was getting ready to put her on a leash, mum started up with all the torture comments, telling the cat how I was about to torture Dora *eyeroll*.
    Anyway, she started barking of course, so I waited for that ten or so second gap between her barks when she wasn't whining and went outside with the food. Did all the steps, gave her the food. She didn't eat all of it, is that a bad thing? And is it also bad that I'm not waiting for her to shut up completely, just for that ten second gap? Like I said, we DO live in a complex, so its a bit hard. I know its not as effective, but I cant do any better. Maybe she'll learn to shut up more slowly than if I was waiting for her to shut it completely?
    Hi sweetie

    You are doing really well!!!

    It doesn't matter that she is not eating it all...she'll eat it when she gets hungry enough. Don't feed her until tonight though...twice a day from now on

    She will learn to be quiet...when she realises...she gets something out of it when she is quiet

    Continue just feeding her the dry food...don't soak it and stuff...she is bigger now...she can definitely chew it

    Keep it up and you will see a difference!

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    Hi Masha

    I do TOT with Frosty too. That's the main way I taught her the meaning of the words "come", "stay" and "wait". "wait" is the word you use for "stay" when you're going to give another command after, like "come". "stay" is for when you want the dog to stay where it is until you get back to her. But baby steps.

    Start with working on the barking. Ie no release/ok to eat word until the barking has stopped. And I'd go 3 seconds to start with than 10 seconds if she can't manage 10 seconds. Ie wait for any pause and reward then work on getting the pauses longer.

    The other way I get Frosty to be quiet, is to actually teach her to "speak". When she's barking her head off, I say "speak, good dog" and she stops barking and looks at me like I'm nuts - or she's trying to figure out what I want her to do. So I say "quiet", "good dog". etc. Clickers are great for working on this cos it really gets the timing, ie the dog knows exactly when it is doing the right thing.

    Every time your mum mentions "torturing" the dog, you might want to mention that you are not squirting the dog with a cold water hose, or pulling her whiskers out one by one. And that getting her to behave better might help her have a long and happy life, instead of what might happen if the neighbours decide to take matters into their own hands and throw rocks at her (or ratsack) if she barks too much. And that you find the "torture" comment hurtful (irony, she's torturing you by saying such mean things, but let her figure that out).

    When she listens to what you say, or reads the info you give her, make sure you thank her and heap praise on her (modify parent's behaviour hopefully) even if she doesn't agree with the content. Some people need some time (weeks, months, years) to think about things before they will see the value in it.

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    Just got back from a loooooong walk We met a beautiful English Pointer (10yo) and Dora was really good with him. She'd met him about 4 times before, and had always being a bit aggressive, but today she got a bit suspicious (and by that I dont mean aggressive, I mean she sniffed and was about to growl) but then, since she was in a very playful mood because I had just played Tag with her, she just started jumping up and down on the dog for three seconds, wagging her tail like mad. He sorta chased her for a few seconds, but then got tired of it Either way, BIG improvement! Im about to do TOT with her, after she gets a little sleepy, and her adrenalin fades.
    Thanks for all the tips, guys

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    OK, Mum has taken this 'torture' thing too far. I told her I'd feed Dora (using TOT) when she gets sleepy, which hasnt happened yet, so I went off to do my own thing. In the ten minutes that I was gone, Mum fed her.
    I am seriously about to KILL HER. Doesnt she GET THAT I AM TRYING TO FIX DORA'S AGGRESSION????????
    AAAAAARGGHHH so angry right now!!

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    I want to say something......I really want to commend you Masha for your determination and obvious love for Dora! Not many teenagers your age would commit to this the way you are sweetie. You come across like a mature young person and I sincerely hope you can get Dora's issues sorted out.

    I am really sorry you on top of everything...have to deal with an obvious "she know's what is better" Mum

    Hang in there...be consistent...love Dora.

    I will add...arguing in the presence of Dora is probably not a good idea...dogs pick up on our body language, feelings and energy, but can not distinguish between you feeling anger towards your parents or towards her...just food for thought sweetie

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    Thanks, Clea. Will try not to argue in front of Dora, bit hard since shes always around!

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    Personally, I'd be giving your mum an ultimatum, something like either she needs to let you do the work to make Dora a better dog, or you WILL be giving her away (whether your mum says so or not). No ifs or buts about it. This isn't about what your mum wants, it's about what Dora needs. Dora is suffering because of it.

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    Masha, I am seriously and genuinely finding it extremely hard to comprehend the way your parents are behaving. I'm just...well...disgusted I'm sorry.

    You ca ntell them that from me, I really am sorry you are having to deal with all this.

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    I feel your pain somewhat Masha. I havent bonded with my dog as much as I would have liked, he has developed some very undesirable behaviours (whenever people come over he has to go outside because he gets VERY defensive or VERY playful and forgets that biting and jumping isnt allowed. ALSO, alot of the time it seems that everybody in this house is trying to make it harder for me to correct these issues and to bring him up the way that I'd like to - as a calm dog!

    Basically just wanted to say stick in there, you're doing a great job, just persist and I really do hope the others come around. Your persistance will pay off

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    Thanks, everyone.
    That ultimatum idea sounds good... thing is, Dora is, most unfortunately, half theirs. I have insisted from day one for them to take ALL of the money, but they only took half of what they paid from me. I have asked them to take it on MANY occasions. I have told mum not to even THINK about feeding Dora... she better listen . Im going to continue this as best as I can.
    Another question... how the hell am I supposed to know when she looks like she thinks that the food maybe wasnt meant for her when I walk past?? Whenever I do TOT she always just looks at me with the same confused, head-cocked expression...

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