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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    Its sooooo mean though! Lol! We want her close to us I guess so she feels safe and secure. She is the type of breed that craves companionship.

    I appreciate your advice and know what you are trying to say but I will be honest and say I don't know if I can bring myself to do that. I guess I worry she will lose trust in us or not love us anymore if we start being all hard ball with her.
    Why is it mean? My dogs slept in the laundry into they were toilet trained at night and I am pretty sure they do not hold a grudge towards us! I still get loads of cuddles and kisses, so I must have done something right......

    That would be the same as us being mean for leaving our dogs in the crate or outside by themselves when we have to go out.

    However...what you might end up with...if you continue to "smother" her is a dog that is extremely depedent on humans and can not think for themselves and/or be by themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Why is it mean? My dogs slept in the laundry into they were toilet trained at night and I am pretty sure they do not hold a grudge towards us! I still get loads of cuddles and kisses, so I must have done something right......

    That would be the same as us being mean for leaving our dogs in the crate or outside by themselves when we have to go out.

    However...what you might end up with...if you continue to "smother" her is a dog that is extremely depedent on humans and can not think for themselves and/or be by themselves.
    Ok...what about crate training her? And having the crate in our room? Or moving her pen to just outside our door (near the entrance of the house that we NEVER use) and teaching her to sleep in there?

    I see what your trying to get at...we need to build independence in her...she is almost 12 weeks...shes not a tiny puppy anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    Ok...what about crate training her? And having the crate in our room? Or moving her pen to just outside our door (near the entrance of the house that we NEVER use) and teaching her to sleep in there?

    I see what your trying to get at...we need to build independence in her...she is almost 12 weeks...shes not a tiny puppy anymore...
    ok...I am going to say this...you started the thread about saving your sleep...right?!?

    Well...putting her in the other end of the house...in the main bathroom will save your sleep eventually. She might cry for 3-5 days, but if you go back to her while she is crying...she will continue.

    Look...she is a dog...not a baby! Treat her as such and you will be ok

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    Amy, what I am trying to say is that everything you are describing, it sounds to me like you have a newborn baby in the house, not a puppy.

    I mean you no hurt or disrespect, but if you continue with treating this dog like a baby, you will destroy a wonderful dog IMO.

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    Your right guys! I do worry and stress about her like she is a baby! I worry that we arn't teaching her how to be the best adult dog she can be. I don't want an adult dog that jumps on people and licks them and tries to eat their toes! She knows "No" and "uh-uh" now so thats a good start in my mind.

    My fiance and I had a huge fight last night about me not speaking nicely to him when I tell him how to do something with Poppy. I do snap at him and I know I shouldnt but I am a worry wart type person and I worry about EVERYTHING to do with her!

    Could we use the playpen instead of the bathroom as the new sleep area? I ask because we bought this exxy pen and barely use it...I think she has been in it twice this week for a few hours esch time! We NEVER use our main bathroom so I guess if we can keep it clean then thats a bonus too!

    What do you think?

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    You are not being cruel by locking her away, you are building her confidence.

    If she were mine and not in an area with cane toads I can tell you in all honesty she would be outside.

    I teach a tie up exercise in my puppy pre-school classes, I do this to build confidence. I see the looks on people faces when we start it, but you should see the looks on their faces when a year down the track that dog can be left anywhere and be confident that it's owner will return.

    Dogs also do not necessarily sleep 8 hours straight, unless you own a whippet of course and you let it sleep on the end of a nice warm water bed in the middle of winter.

    My dogs all sleep outside (with the exception of one dog one night a fortnight gets to sleep inside on the end of our bed and I do that so that they do not become overly dependent on each other.)

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    Yes use the pen. Put it as far away as possible.

    I always say to people two options; tough love, or start in crate next to bed and move slowly out to the area you want them to sleep in.

    What option do I take - tough love.

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    "Dogs are social animals - the pack sleeps together. Having your dog sleep in the same room as you is an appropriate thing to do IMO."

    What do you all think of that statement???

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    Your right guys! I do worry and stress about her like she is a baby! I worry that we arn't teaching her how to be the best adult dog she can be. I don't want an adult dog that jumps on people and licks them and tries to eat their toes! She knows "No" and "uh-uh" now so thats a good start in my mind.

    My fiance and I had a huge fight last night about me not speaking nicely to him when I tell him how to do something with Poppy. I do snap at him and I know I shouldnt but I am a worry wart type person and I worry about EVERYTHING to do with her!

    Could we use the playpen instead of the bathroom as the new sleep area? I ask because we bought this exxy pen and barely use it...I think she has been in it twice this week for a few hours esch time! We NEVER use our main bathroom so I guess if we can keep it clean then thats a bonus too!

    What do you think?
    I still think main bathroom...it has tiles and can be cleaned easily...it is away from you, so you might get some sleep!

    Look...this will ONLY work if you do NOT give in! She will be screaming like someone is killing her...ignore! Don't say to yourself...she might be hurt or something! Make SURE she can not get hurt in there from the beginning...stick with it...don't give in!

    Story...my rottweiler puppy was SCREAMING the house down when we got him. What did I do...I went to him (because it was mean right) and voila...he knew exactly where he had me! I ended up sleeping on the bloody lounge for 7 months with this dog next to me on the floor. If I tried to isolate him at night or put him outside by himself...he would either scream or chew my house on the outside (my timber door frames showed the evidence quite clearly)!

    If I left him by himself in lounge area...he would patrol the house ALL bloody night and get no sleep!

    He was VERY dependent on me.

    When we got Sumo...we KNEW what NOT to do. We put Sumo in the laundry the first night. He whimpered for about 5 minutes...stopped and we didn't hear a peep until we opened the door. Next night he did the same and from that day on...he never said a peep. Ruby however...screamed for about 7 days and then stopped when she figured out we would not be coming back.

    They now sleep in their crates and this is ONLY because they a toilet trained at night and will not have any accidents. Crates training should happen slowly and definitely not by locking Poppy up at night if she is not used to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    Yes use the pen. Put it as far away as possible.

    I always say to people two options; tough love, or start in crate next to bed and move slowly out to the area you want them to sleep in.

    What option do I take - tough love.
    me too!!!

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