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    I'm just kind of brain storming a bit here, if you know what I mean lol.

    Very recently, in the last three days, Batty has been being a lot more pushy for attention, food, toys, me and anything he can see.

    He's now 15 and a bit weeks old, is the behavior normal or is this something that can be a problem?

    When I say pushy, it's just he will come up and sit and grunt at you, I usually ignore this, but he has been escalating in the last couple of days, to the point where he is now scratching at legs and jumping trying to take things from you. Neither is tolerated, nothing like this has ever been encouraged either. He is not allowed to jump at people, nor is he allowed to snatch things.

    At other times, play time mostly, when he has a toy he'll bring it right up to me (he won't do this with hubby) and try to 'give' it to me. Problem is he wants to stuff it into my mouth! I can safely say that pigs ears don't taste good!

    It's kind of difficult to explain but it should be simple. It's as though he's gone backwards as far as frustration goes.

    Any ideas/questions?

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    I'm not exactly sure at what age but dogs go through the teen stage of rebelling and trying to push the bounderys maybe thats whats going on.
    When my 2 went through this I re-enforsed the NILIF program, they didn't get so much as a pat with at least sitting first.
    It did pass but it was very fusterating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    I'm just kind of brain storming a bit here, if you know what I mean lol.

    Very recently, in the last three days, Batty has been being a lot more pushy for attention, food, toys, me and anything he can see.

    He's now 15 and a bit weeks old, is the behavior normal or is this something that can be a problem?

    When I say pushy, it's just he will come up and sit and grunt at you, I usually ignore this, but he has been escalating in the last couple of days, to the point where he is now scratching at legs and jumping trying to take things from you. Neither is tolerated, nothing like this has ever been encouraged either. He is not allowed to jump at people, nor is he allowed to snatch things.

    At other times, play time mostly, when he has a toy he'll bring it right up to me (he won't do this with hubby) and try to 'give' it to me. Problem is he wants to stuff it into my mouth! I can safely say that pigs ears don't taste good!

    It's kind of difficult to explain but it should be simple. It's as though he's gone backwards as far as frustration goes.

    Any ideas/questions?


    Sorry for laughing, but the visual is just hilarious

    I wouldn't say he is in his "teens"...he sounds more like a naughtyspank.gif toodler.

    Mine do this too...come with their toys...I tell them to bugger off. Sumo can stand for 10 min with his precious ball...waiting for me to chase him out in the backyard...and no...i don't do it. I wait until he has stopped this behaviour...tell him to get the ball and we can play with it...ON MY TERMS.

    If he is attention seeking...scratching legs etc...get up and walk away...no eye contact etc. When he behaves...give praise and treats or whatever you do. When he is naughty...ignore and redirect

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    My feeling is that growth with animals, humans goes in stages and these must all be passed through successfully. I also wish so much that we could have manuals for this, I mean ONE good universally successful one instead of the plethora of good and bad advice that is around.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    He's part kelpie, right?

    Welcome to the world of Kelpies. If you don't give him something to do, he will get really demanding. Is very normal for a Kelpie.

    So what can you do?
    More exercise, and more training - especially down-stay. Though at 15 weeks you're a bit limited on how much exercise in one go is healthy. You might find 10 to 15 minutes of training will satisfy him for another few hours and he will sleep. And then he will start again. Training is good - anything - obedience, tricks, because working his brain is as good as working his muscles.

    You may - if you just want a break - give him a food workout - eg frozen food in a kong or something - stop feeding him all in one go and load his feeds into treat balls, frozen kongs, even just old margarine tubs with a bit of food in (do remove it from the tub before allowing him to have it) and a bit of TOT, ie make him work before he can have his food eg sit / stay-wait / come etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post


    Sorry for laughing, but the visual is just hilarious

    I wouldn't say he is in his "teens"...he sounds more like a naughtyspank.gif toodler.

    Mine do this too...come with their toys...I tell them to bugger off. Sumo can stand for 10 min with his precious ball...waiting for me to chase him out in the backyard...and no...i don't do it. I wait until he has stopped this behaviour...tell him to get the ball and we can play with it...ON MY TERMS.

    If he is attention seeking...scratching legs etc...get up and walk away...no eye contact etc. When he behaves...give praise and treats or whatever you do. When he is naughty...ignore and redirect
    It's ok for laughing hubby does the same thing, which really doesn't help at all because Batty then gets more excited and more determined

    Ok, I have been ignoring the demanding behaviour and rewarding the good. If anything it's getting worse and he's being more persistant, but I'm guessing this is just an extinction phase and hoping that it passes if I stick to what I'm doing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    He's part kelpie, right?

    Welcome to the world of Kelpies. If you don't give him something to do, he will get really demanding. Is very normal for a Kelpie.

    So what can you do?
    More exercise, and more training - especially down-stay. Though at 15 weeks you're a bit limited on how much exercise in one go is healthy. You might find 10 to 15 minutes of training will satisfy him for another few hours and he will sleep. And then he will start again. Training is good - anything - obedience, tricks, because working his brain is as good as working his muscles.

    You may - if you just want a break - give him a food workout - eg frozen food in a kong or something - stop feeding him all in one go and load his feeds into treat balls, frozen kongs, even just old margarine tubs with a bit of food in (do remove it from the tub before allowing him to have it) and a bit of TOT, ie make him work before he can have his food eg sit / stay-wait / come etc.
    I do already do TOT with him, I hadn't thought of throwing in a come, but I'll do that and see how he goes with it

    Training has been stepped up a bit, he's able to hold his focus for around 20 mins (I don't do this with him more than once in a day). He's also going for 3 30 minute walks a day. He's kind of more tired but kind of not I'll keep persisting with it.

    TBH I can't wait for him to be older, I want to get back into obedience and actually compete this time as well as start agility, but that will come in time and now is the time to focus on the groundwork.

    Thank you for your advice

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    You'd be surprised what dogs find as encouragement, just telling them to rack off or even laughing can be encouraging to a dog demanding attention.

    My setter does this for pats, grunts and noses groins, visitors find it very embarrassing but it does get their attention.

    I spent the day weeding along the back fence, believe me it's a long fence and my whippet boy who can plan fetch until the cows come home, started by dropping the ball on a rope between my ankles (I was kneeling), when that didn't get my attention he started dropping it on my head.

    I love a dog with a high toy motivation and use it in training a lot so I generally ask for a couple of things from them, sit, drop, nice show stack and then indulge them.

    A Kelpie with a high toy drive is my idea of heaven, utilise it.

    Try also ending sessions with "enough" and put toys away.

    Go and hang one from a tree and let him bug the crap out of that.

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