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    Charlie and Bella have been fighting an awful lot lately, in a more "serious" manner than usual. They've always wrestled and chased and pulled each others ears, tails, etc, but lately it just seems nastier. Charlie is picking on Bella non-stop - he just jumped off the couch and landed on top of her (on purpose) and started biting her while I'm writing this.

    They're 7 months old now, is this just some sort of "adolescent" phase? (please please please let it be a phase...)

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    Little dogs mature quicker than big ones.

    8 to 10 months is an important stage in a puppies life - where they often become completely obnoxious, refuse to do what they're told when they used to be fine, and are much more suspicious of everything in life.

    And you're about to enter that phase of the puppies life.

    If you think the fighting is too much - disrupt it by clapping, being distracting, and bab bab babbing between them. Make sure they're getting plenty of walks. If you don't like the behaviour - don't put up with it, give them something else to do.

    Frosty at 6 months old, would take flying leaps on to her 18 month old doggy friend, it was scary but no damage done and both puppy-dogs knew how to say enough and stop. Frosty at 8 months had to sit in the crate any time I wanted to make or eat my own dinner because her behaviour was too obnoxious and dangerous with hot pasta water in the kitchen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Little dogs mature quicker than big ones.

    8 to 10 months is an important stage in a puppies life - where they often become completely obnoxious, refuse to do what they're told when they used to be fine, and are much more suspicious of everything in life.

    And you're about to enter that phase of the puppies life.

    If you think the fighting is too much - disrupt it by clapping, being distracting, and bab bab babbing between them. Make sure they're getting plenty of walks. If you don't like the behaviour - don't put up with it, give them something else to do.

    Frosty at 6 months old, would take flying leaps on to her 18 month old doggy friend, it was scary but no damage done and both puppy-dogs knew how to say enough and stop. Frosty at 8 months had to sit in the crate any time I wanted to make or eat my own dinner because her behaviour was too obnoxious and dangerous with hot pasta water in the kitchen.

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    Thanks So far it seems to be hitting Charlie worse than Bella - he won't listen, tries to get into everything, climbs over everything, attacks his sister, etc etc.

    Good thing we're going to school...

    ETA: We've always disrupted their fighting when we decide it's about to go too far. It just seems that we're stopping it quicker than usual these days!
    Last edited by Charlie & Bella's mum; 02-01-2010 at 09:11 PM.

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    For my 2c C & B Mum, I would be getting them both off the bed and lounge for the next while. WHen good behaviour returns, you can then invite them back up, but sounds to me like Charlie (at least) is rescourse guarding.

    Also, check back in when you want to invite them back up on the lounge and beds as there is a right and wrong way to do this as well that will help keep the peace lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar Pei Rescue Victoria View Post
    For my 2c C & B Mum, I would be getting them both off the bed and lounge for the next while. WHen good behaviour returns, you can then invite them back up, but sounds to me like Charlie (at least) is rescourse guarding.

    Also, check back in when you want to invite them back up on the lounge and beds as there is a right and wrong way to do this as well that will help keep the peace lol
    They can't get on our bed (baby gate across the bedroom door!). I think you might be right though about getting him off the lounge - although we can't stop him when we're at work I spose. Miss Bella can't actually get up on the couch... she's too short and hasn't learnt how to jump that high! She has to be lifted. But yeah, now that I think about it, I think Charlie is definately resource guarding the couch because sometimes when Bell is up on the couch he tries to get her off.

    Might also explain why he steals whatever toy she happens to be playing with for no apparant reason. I know they're dogs but my goodness they remind me of me and my brother sometimes! LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie & Bella's mum View Post
    They can't get on our bed (baby gate across the bedroom door!). I think you might be right though about getting him off the lounge - although we can't stop him when we're at work I spose. Miss Bella can't actually get up on the couch... she's too short and hasn't learnt how to jump that high! She has to be lifted. But yeah, now that I think about it, I think Charlie is definately resource guarding the couch because sometimes when Bell is up on the couch he tries to get her off.

    Might also explain why he steals whatever toy she happens to be playing with for no apparant reason. I know they're dogs but my goodness they remind me of me and my brother sometimes! LOL.
    How long are they home alone when you're at work?

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    Who's top dog, so to speak? Charlie, I assume? Or will Bella usually stand her ground when she's had enough?

    I'd definately take the advice above and stop Charlie being llowed on the couch. On, if he can get up there (and is allowed) and Bella can't of her own free will, that's not a good scenario to start with.

    In a round about way, imagine he's a teenager. I'm quite happy for you to leave Charlie here in April and you can swap with my teenager for a while! ROFL. You'll soon realise how easy it is to get Charlie under control then!!!

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    OK, so say you keep him off the lounge for the next month and his behaviour improve. When you are happy with the fact that he is once again a pack member and not the pack leader, you can sit on the lounge FIRST, then invite him up beside you. Should you get up at any time, he is to get off first, await your return then you invite him up again. Sounds trivial but this does enforce who is boss.

    Something else I would do with him is to prepare his food, then instead of giving it to him, stand there and pretend to eat from his bowl. Again works wonders, but like most things with dogs, the key is to be consistant EVERY single time

    Good luck! And I mean that. I ruined my swf......literally by curtailing to his widdle iddy biddy-ness. For 8 yrs I let him get away with way too much and now he behaves very badly in so many ways. Doesn't matter if they are little and cute or big and intimidating, bottom line is we can create monsters out of any of them thinking all the while we are just loving them.

    Good on you for seeking advise to nip it in the bud.....wish I had of all those years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Who's top dog, so to speak? Charlie, I assume? Or will Bella usually stand her ground when she's had enough?

    I'd definately take the advice above and stop Charlie being llowed on the couch. On, if he can get up there (and is allowed) and Bella can't of her own free will, that's not a good scenario to start with.

    In a round about way, imagine he's a teenager. I'm quite happy for you to leave Charlie here in April and you can swap with my teenager for a while! ROFL. You'll soon realise how easy it is to get Charlie under control then!!!
    Charlie is definately in charge between the 2 of them. Bella will crack the s**ts when she's had enough of him though.

    I must admit, with regards to the couch because Charlie has been able to get up for ages and I did think it wasn't fair that Bella couldn't get up, we now have one of those booster steps you use when toilet training kids to encourage her. She's still too small though!

    Thanks for the offer of swapping kids, but I think I'll pass this time!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie & Bella's mum View Post
    Charlie is definately in charge between the 2 of them. Bella will crack the s**ts when she's had enough of him though.

    I must admit, with regards to the couch because Charlie has been able to get up for ages and I did think it wasn't fair that Bella couldn't get up, we now have one of those booster steps you use when toilet training kids to encourage her. She's still too small though!

    Thanks for the offer of swapping kids, but I think I'll pass this time!!:laugh:
    Oh drats!!!

    So when Bella has had enough of him, HOW does she crack the ****s? Does she really put him in his place, or simply huff off?

    The couch business must be for both, or neither at all. I personally wouldn't be allowing either of them up for the time being, until the heirachy between the two settles down somewhat.

    Now I know you just love having them on the lounge with you, but right now I'm trying to point out for the better in the long run.

    That's just my opinion anyway. Best of luck. Hope it settles before long and doesn't escalate.

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