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    Thanks for the feedback. We're thinking of doing it not just for the puppy-preschool class but for new members as well, you know the people who skipped puppy pre-school and have now decided to join a club because they are being pulled down the road.

    1/2 the instructors are for it and 1/2 are not so I am expecting Wednesday night to be a long one.

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    I've been to 2 very different puppy schools.
    Madeline went to Planet K9 and I wasn't impressed but I think that was more to do with the instructor than the actual class. Madeline has had alot of trouble with focus and carming down around other dogs ever since she was pup so i spent all but 1 class with her tied to a pole and me walking in and out of the room trying to get her attention.

    The class is self seemed good, the first half focusing on basic commands and socalising. Second half was carming the puppys and talking.

    Griffen went to an obedience (SP?) training group. Their puppy school was half an hour of training and games to play with your puppy (puppy pingpong was my faverate) then half and hour of free for all. Then carming down.

    In the free for all time the puppys were seperated into large and small (Griffen was put into the small puppy group due to his nature dispite the fact he was almost 3 times the size of some of the pups ) and there were usually 5 or 6 trainers supervising as well as the owners. All the pups were watched carefully (human socallising at this time was discuraged) and any pups that got too boisterous (sp?) were put on lead)

    We were lucky there was only one incident of a wippet pup running into Griffen while he was sitting in the shade, he was fine (didn't ever notice) but the wippet was a little sore. Running into griffen is like running into a brick.

    I learnt alot from this class but I dont think I'd do it again unless the classes were smaller (there were usually around 20-25 pups) too much chance of something bad happening
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    Ooh Bordeaux, 20-25 is a lot of puppies to keep an eye on IMO!

    Your first experience sounds horrible and rediculous. I had no idea ppl actually run puppy schools like this. God, explains why there are so many unhappy customers out there. Gawd!! That truly is awful.

    MAC if it's half and half, I wonder if the half that aren't for it at this stage would be willing to at least give it a go on a trial basis?
    I found the more impersonal it was, the more ppl relaxed and the better the results in the end.
    Ppl want to be able to ask any question, no matter how silly it might sound or how inexperienced it might make them seem or feel. And if they are not relaxed, they will usually keep their mouth shut, which gets them nowhere. Just a thought to put forward?
    Good luck.

    I also would point out to them MAC that if half of the club is feeling the desire to try something new, then maybe that should spell out to the other half that a change is in order?

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    I agree DA it was way too many pups. The thing was you paid a yearly fee and if you pup was under 15 weeks (I think, it's been a while) you could join the puppy class.
    So the numbers changed each week, some weeks there may have been only 10 other times heaps.

    I have to admit though the trainers were great

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    I took my parents border collie to puppy school with their local canine club, I'm not sure who had more fun, Blue, my parents or me.

    We're very much a dog family but it was a great way to get advice and socalisation with Blue. His first few lessons he was a little timid, but was also one of the smallest, however after the first few he had a ball.

    The lessons were all out doors in a small area of a sports ground. The puppies could see and hear the other lessons around them but were still well contained.

    Each lesson went for around an hour with on and off lead time, along with basic obedience and after the lesson time to wander amongst the 'big' dogs (on lead of course) and other dog owners.

    We all loved it, Blue who normally gets in a car and goes straight to sleep would know when we were in the school driveway and be pushing his way out to see his new found friends.

    We found the instructor to be fairly imformative, there was a lot we already knew from previous experiance, however its always good to get more info and opinions. But it was obvious she loved what she was doing, she didn't even mind when Blue and his mate up ended the water bowel over her.

    I'd be fuming over you're experiance too Cleas, thats not on in my book!

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    I'm quoting these from some other threads, but here are my experience. I only have one puppy school near me and it's run by the vets. Thankfully not Delta trainers, but still almost as bad!

    First Lesson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    Well, Batty and I went to his first ever puppy pre school session last night. It was very cute seeing some of the puppies playing, but the lady in charge didn't seem to take much notice of what was actually going on until it got to the point of puppies yelping and running away, that's my first annoyance.

    I'm only going there for the socialisation aspect in all honesty but I got told off for stopping another dog from pinning down mine and biting his head (dangerously close to his eyes).

    The feeding information annoyed me a bit, they kept pushing the highly processed 'premium' foods they stock at the vets (which I was expecting).

    Batty got over-excited and started nipping at hands, so the vet nurse told everyone to make a high pitched yelping noise... That turned it into a game for him and he got worse. I corrected him when he bit me and he didn't bite another hand, I was taken aside after the class to be given a reprimand for treating my puppy like that.... The correction was simple, one hand around muzzle, a very firm no, then release.

    I was also told that crating Batty at night is cruelty and he should have the run of the house. My response was "So you're telling me that having Batty safe in his crate with fresh water, his teddy that he sleeps with and a chew for his teeth is more cruel than allowing him the run of the house every night and waking up to toilets all over the house, items being chewed up, not to mention the dangers of him choking on something, breaking a limb or injuring himself in some way?"

    Needless to say the vet nurse quickly back tracked.

    My hint or tip for the night.... Don't believe everything your vet nurse tells you, do your own research and make decisions for yourself. You will know if you are being cruel or not.
    Last Lesson - Graduation:

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    Yay for Batty! He was a right little PIG at first, refused to do anything with the distraction of the 8 other puppies, had a fit when the vet nurse tried. She then decided maybe I will listen to the owner, we went outside into a quiet area and what do you know... Perfect angel straight away, did everything twice as long as everyone else and threw in a shake, roll over and speak for us too - all on command. I am thoroughly chuffed - particularly after this morning!

    I have to admit to having a big giggle when the vet nurse was trying to get Batty's attention.... He completely ignored her, wandered around, had a sniff of some of the bags of food, jumped at her - (she shouldn't have been making odd noises to him and I told her he would jump!) - had a play with another puppy meanwhile she's getting more and more frustrated.

    It was great when we went outdoors though, he's going to be an amazing obedience dog. He did (I haven't taught this, just one of those voluntary things) a perfect heel with FULL focus on me walking over to the area where we did the test, followed by a 1 minute sit and stay, a 2 minute drop and stay (he did have a bit of a look around though), a perfect 'watch' for 30 seconds, recall from a stay, then shook paws, rolled over and I asked him to speak and he did! It was awesome.

    I'm amazed he did the stays for that long though, he's done up to 40 seconds at home with the sit stay and up to 1 and a half minutes in a down stay. On the recall he did run into my legs though, but once he'd used them to stop the forward momentum he promptly sat and watched me very intently.

    Vet nurse was a bit disgusted with me sitting on the ground and making a HUGE fuss of him. She said I praised him too much but I didn't think so, it was an amazing achievement.

    He's been an angel this morning, so hopefully yesterdays antics were just a phase for that day and he never goes into that mode again.... Yeah Right! Guess I can keep dreaming!

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    our dog was too old for puppy pre school, she was 2-3 when we got her, so i cant really comment, our previous dog was about 18 months when we got him, but with both dogs i contacted the local obedience club and asked what was available, and both times i was put in touch with fabulous people who helped me get basic training and socialisation without it costing a fortune.

    i would go with your gut feeling if your not feeling comfortable, the pup is never going to feel ok with it and resist, i would look for another one and talk to the people that run it and explain what you have experienced and what your expectations are!

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    Loeka

    Yes all the puppies in our group got along. One that had been to a previous session and was very bossy in that, turned out to be really shy in our class - one giant groodle puppy (the bossy/scardy puppy), one out of control malamute puppy (teenage owners - never did their homework), and one energetic grovelling blue heeler x (mine) who started a fair bit of the puppy fun.

    Our dog obedience runs puppy classes for puppies up to 6 months old (or puppies with short attention spans over 6 months), They start next week, (first week of feb, weather permitting).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Ppl want to be able to ask any question, no matter how silly it might sound or how inexperienced it might make them seem or feel. And if they are not relaxed, they will usually keep their mouth shut, which gets them nowhere. Just a thought to put forward?
    Good luck.
    DA: That's another thing - because she's rushed for time and quite full-on, it's difficult to ask her questions and her answers are quite curt. I asked her, for example, how to get Loeka to drop and stay because he will sit and stay for nearly 2 minutes. She told me, oh that's ADVANCED obedience - we won't get into that. I understand that - I'm a teacher and I sometimes need to tell students to stick to their own level. BUT I also know when students are ready to move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    I'm quoting these from some other threads, but here are my experience. I only have one puppy school near me and it's run by the vets. Thankfully not Delta trainers, but still almost as bad!
    Angela: Wow. It sounds VERY similar to my experience except our trainer seems to be a bit more savvy. Also, it's scary how much your dog looks like mine! Kelpie X with collie?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Loeka

    Yes all the puppies in our group got along. One that had been to a previous session and was very bossy in that, turned out to be really shy in our class - one giant groodle puppy (the bossy/scardy puppy), one out of control malamute puppy (teenage owners - never did their homework), and one energetic grovelling blue heeler x (mine) who started a fair bit of the puppy fun.

    Our dog obedience runs puppy classes for puppies up to 6 months old (or puppies with short attention spans over 6 months), They start next week, (first week of feb, weather permitting).
    Hyacinth: Is this school in Brisbane by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loeka View Post
    Angela: Wow. It sounds VERY similar to my experience except our trainer seems to be a bit more savvy. Also, it's scary how much your dog looks like mine! Kelpie X with collie?
    Batty, we don't know what's gone into him! We (rescue group and I) know mum was Kelpie x Australian Cattle Dog (Blue) and he has the blue markings, but dad could have been anything! I'll pm you and see if your puppy came from the same litter too

    If you're not worried about distance I can HIGHLY recommend the VIP Pet Foods obedience school. They do Obedience (right up to competition level), Agility, Doggy Commando, Puppy School and Doggy Dancing (amazing to watch and very fun to do). They're down at Yatala and I can send you Marie's contact details if you like? They're happy for people to go down and see what happens without the dog first to see how comfortable you are with them/their structure.

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