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Old 01-23-2010, 06:20 AM
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Ask your parents to read the Forum a bit

And tell them it's wrong. Very wrong
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Masha, I was hopeful that there wasn't one person left in this world ignorant enough to do that. I was wrong.

I am going to be very blunt, dear girl. Your parents are possibly going to destroy this dog. I think you know that.

I have a question. Is this solely your dog? Did your parents get it for you to have sole responsibility for it? If so, you need to point that out to your parents.
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I bought my daughter a dog (Jethro), to show, it was a birthday present (naughty I know!) but it was done with research and with the thought that if she lost interest Jethro would become my dog. She still does quite a lot for Jethro, not all but that's because I do stick my nose in. At the end of the day they are your parents and you have to respect them. To be honest I shook my head when you said he rubbed her nose in it but I gasped when you wrote that you refuse to call your father Dad. That is wrong and it would come across to your father that you are thinking this.

On the note of what he did - I think you need to sit them down and have like a family conference type thing. You need to have your facts sorted and your ideas ready. You need to explain your training methods in a grown up and mature way. Maybe print off what you would like your pups routine for the day to be and let them know what you will be doing with her throughout the day. E.G. at 10am I will be training Dora to do recall, this is how I will do it, would you like to help me Dad/Mum/Brother/Sister. Get them involved with the training while you are there, explaining as you go why you are training this with her. "We are training Dora recall because if she ever gets off lead then she will know that she needs to come back to me so that she does not get run over."

Show your parents that you are being grown up about your training with Dora so that they know that you aren't just pulling the information from nowhere, but instead that it is backed up by the trainers of today.

Sorry for the long post, but I really do think you need to involve your family otherwise when you go back to school you are going to be in for all sorts of issues.
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I bought my daughter a dog (Jethro), to show, it was a birthday present (naughty I know!) but it was done with research and with the thought that if she lost interest Jethro would become my dog. She still does quite a lot for Jethro, not all but that's because I do stick my nose in. At the end of the day they are your parents and you have to respect them. To be honest I shook my head when you said he rubbed her nose in it but I gasped when you wrote that you refuse to call your father Dad. That is wrong and it would come across to your father that you are thinking this.

On the note of what he did - I think you need to sit them down and have like a family conference type thing. You need to have your facts sorted and your ideas ready. You need to explain your training methods in a grown up and mature way. Maybe print off what you would like your pups routine for the day to be and let them know what you will be doing with her throughout the day. E.G. at 10am I will be training Dora to do recall, this is how I will do it, would you like to help me Dad/Mum/Brother/Sister. Get them involved with the training while you are there, explaining as you go why you are training this with her. "We are training Dora recall because if she ever gets off lead then she will know that she needs to come back to me so that she does not get run over."

Show your parents that you are being grown up about your training with Dora so that they know that you aren't just pulling the information from nowhere, but instead that it is backed up by the trainers of today.

Sorry for the long post, but I really do think you need to involve your family otherwise when you go back to school you are going to be in for all sorts of issues.

DA, this dog was bought solely for me on the promise that I do everything - feed, wash, walk, toilet train.

Cate, I've never had a good relationship with my parents. To put it this way - I am one of those kids who's like, yea, they gave birth to me. Yea, they house and feed me. But at the end of the day, they arent the people I confide in, they're the people I live with.
I have told them multiple times NOT to rub her nose in the poo like they did in the olden days. Just so that they KNOW I don't allow it. That's why I don't like my fatehr at the moment - because he KNEW that I didnt want him to do that, and because I had tried to explain to him that it is cruel and unneccesary (sp???). He knew my thoughts on it, yet he did it anyway.

I've tried talking to them - I have. But they refuse to listen. Mum insists on giving Dora affection when shes scared (especially when Im not around) even though I've told her not to do it, as it will only make things worse. Mum just says that parents give their kids affection when theyre scared... Yea, Mum, human kids. Dora is a DOG. Sure she may be small, but that deosnt mean she's a human.
They piss me off so much - this dog was bought for me... yet they still do everything I tell them not to.

On the first part of your post Cate - where you assumed that if your daughter didnt do everything with jethro he would becoome yours. I cant stop taking care of Dora - Mum says she'll gladly take her, but I cant let that happen, Mum'll RUIN her. They just dont get it.
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It is very sad that you do not have a good relationship with your Mum, my daughter is few years younger than you, but I hope we never get to that stage.

What is going to happen when you go back to school? Is your Mum going to take over for that time? Have you put any plans into effect for when you go back to school?

I don't understand how if you have a bad relationship with your parents they went and bought you a dog? Generally the parents that are not on good terms with their kids don't give them anything they want. This a general query so I can try and give you some feed back as a parent as to what may possibly work.

Is there anyone else in your family that has the same fews as you as to how to raise a pup (preferably an adult) that could possibly speak to them?
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So Dora pooed on my parents bed this morning and when Dad discovered it ten minutes later he grabbed her and rubbed her nose in it - she was so scared that she peed herself.
yep we did this with Boss a couple of times.... He doesnt poo in the house anymore when we were toliet training him..



cate has a good point.... what u going to do when u are at school.... lock Dora in a cupboard so anyone can teach her bad things... U need to talk to your parents about it

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It is very sad that you do not have a good relationship with your Mum, my daughter is few years younger than you, but I hope we never get to that stage.

What is going to happen when you go back to school? Is your Mum going to take over for that time? Have you put any plans into effect for when you go back to school?

I don't understand how if you have a bad relationship with your parents they went and bought you a dog? Generally the parents that are not on good terms with their kids don't give them anything they want. This a general query so I can try and give you some feed back as a parent as to what may possibly work.

Is there anyone else in your family that has the same fews as you as to how to raise a pup (preferably an adult) that could possibly speak to them?
When I go to school Dora wil be left alone for four hours... Mum, sister and I leave at 8.30 and dad at noon. Hopefully she wont bust her bladder cos she usually sleeps during this time.
I've being begging for a dog for three years now, and since we finally got permission (stupid neighbours) we got Dora. Trust, I hardly ever get what I want...

No one has the same views as me - Im alone on this one. I talked to mum a few mins ago and she said that she didnt agree with all the articles Ive showed her about not giving a dog affection when she/he is scared. My parents are impossible.
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So Dora pooed on my parents bed this morning and when Dad discovered it ten minutes later he grabbed her and rubbed her nose in it - she was so scared that she peed herself. I was not there (was at work) but my sister told it to me gleefully.
What can I do to tell him that it is not acceptable to do this and that it doesnt even work? I was so angry at him - how would HE like it if someone rubbed his nose in his poo?
Sorry this is more of a rant.
You ask any trainer or behaviourist if it is ok to rub noses in pee and poo...what do you think they will say??? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

The problem with this is................any progress you have done regarding toilet training has just been set back big time. Also...ANY trust you have built with this dog...has been damaged too (eg the peeing in fear after)!!!!

I find this disturbing on so many levels!!!

You got the dog for you...to feed, train, toilet train etc etc...what is going to happen when you still have to go to work and to school???? Are you going to carry her around in your bag? Who is responsible for her when you are not going to be there? I am hoping and praying you are NOT going to say your parents and sister!!!!!!!

Sorry to say this...your Dad needs a kick in the arse!

The emotions I felt when I read this can not be put into words!
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yep we did this with Boss a couple of times.... He doesnt poo in the house anymore when we were toliet training him..



cate has a good point.... what u going to do when u are at school.... lock Dora in a cupboard so anyone can teach her bad things... U need to talk to your parents about it
Do you think this is okay?
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