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    What I mean is wear her brain out. I've had a lot of experience with working dogs. Owned, bred and trialled Kelpies for 20 years. This jumping, biting and nipping is very common to working breeds.

    I explained your posts to a BC enthusiasts and she said the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    What I mean is wear her brain out. I've had a lot of experience with working dogs. Owned, bred and trialled Kelpies for 20 years. This jumping, biting and nipping is very common to working breeds.

    I explained your posts to a BC enthusiasts and she said the same thing.
    I think I understand what you're saying. Correct me if i'm wrong...Striker is at work a fair bit I think, and Bonnie sits around with the other dog, but has very little mental stimulation. Going for a walk for an hour and a half can be very unstimulating if that's all it is - a walk with nothing else.

    Is that what you mean, MAC???

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    Yes, she smacks of working BC not show BC. My Kelpies got as much stimulation from a ride in the car as they did from a walk.

    The walks had to be varied too. I've lived with up to 8 Kelpies at a time in a standard back yard.

    If you don't equally wear the brain and body out on these type of dogs then they will look for other things to amuse themselves. I've had lazy Kelpies and I've had the ones that require changing stimuli.

    I've seen BCs than you'd think were Golden Ret. and then I've seen the other type. Hanging around the working dog ring you see the different types.

    Think quality not quantity.

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    I must admit I have seen them rounding up ants when they were desperately bored! Sad.

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    When you've done the walk and just before she's tired then is the time to train this dog with basic obedience while you're on top of Bonnie because she's physically tired.

    It will be a fine line to pick between exhausted and having the edge taken off her.

    It's like trying to teach a kid maths when they've just had red cordial. Sending a child to bed after having been on the play station. They are going to take time to settle down to sleep. So do some basic obedience when they are more receptive to it.

    Your not fighting against this dog then, they are going with the flow. So in other words get out for the walk then spend quality time with the dog, she sees you as a positive too. You are calmer, you are the good guy and the dog thinks yep I can work with this person.

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    Ok. ok I see where you are coming from here, she is definitely a working collie, her parents were both raised on a farm in rural Tamworth, so she has the drive. Would this be what is fueling her dominance maybe? Has she got so much energy that she has decided to put it up against me?

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    Yeah, MAC could be dead right, Striker.

    I'm not certain, as I just see so much very real aggression in her, but it's certainly worth giving it a go and seeing what difference it makes. Heck, it could work very quickly and trun Bonnie around, if you do what MAC has suggested to start with.

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    All dogs are different Striker. I have a neighbour with two BCs. One is placid, ultra friendly, cuddely, wicked temp in my opinion. The other will have no problem taking you apart if she feels like it. VERY different dogs.

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    I will try it, but God I hope it works. Like I said, she has steadily been getting worse with carrying out commands, she'll just look at you unless you physically make her do them.

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    I'm not saying she doesn't have issues regarding being bossy, but I think part of it stems from not having enough to do mentally. She is not mentally drained at the end of the day.

    And therefore she is not receptive to you.

    I believe a break thru will come as she matures.

    I told the story a while ago of the kelpie I had that drove a mob of sheep towards me when we were just meant to be having a toilet break on the side of the road. She went further in obedience than any of my other Kelpies because her drive was so intense, but as a young dog she was the most annoying to actually live with.

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