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    Hi,

    My names Liesa and Charlie is my little 11 week old spoodle puppy

    - He is absolutely amazing! he understands alot and we've got I've sitting staying and coming on command I have him waiting at the door until I say "come" and doing his business on command he'll even go to bed on command, he is a delight on lead and loves his mummy and only his mummy!!

    But I think that's the problem... Charlie and I are home all day together, I have a small photography business from home which has given me the freedom to pay Charlie a lot of attention he also get a heap of attention from clients and their beautiful children and Charlie loves the children!! Maybe too much attention from myself but I love him to bits!!

    Charlie and I since my partner and I got him 2 weeks ago have done everything together! He rarely listens to John (my fiancée) in fact he wont even come to John when John calls for him unless John has a treat or Charlies dinner in his hand.

    Charlie is a little bit spoilt! well alot spoilt! and for the most part he's good to me - just not John! and I've stepped back and let John do the puppy training routines after work. The problem is when I step back Charlie cries for me! if I walk inside and close the door behind me Charlie runs to it and cries if I leave it open Charlie runs inside after me and if I stay and watch him learn Charlie has an attention span of ZERO because its not me training him!

    Going out for me isn't fun now I only ever need to leave him for a maximum of an hour at a time and he goes into the laundry with fresh water toys a puppy kong and the radio is always on to keep him company he doesnt go in there by choice and I really dont think he ever will now! Im fearful that in these early puppy stages I've maybe spoilt him too much! Once I put him in there he makes a run for the door so I have to try and beat him to it! Once the door is closed I walk away and he starts yelping and crying and screaming and it honestly sounds as if he is being seriously hurt, and I really cant stand the sound or even the thought of the sounds he makes they are seriously very chilling sounds. Anyway I do what i have to do and I leave. When I come back he is generally fairly quiet I think because he can sense that I am simply not there to hear him. but if we put him in there over night to sleep he goes berko... all night its non stop! we've tried this on several occasions and all have ended in disaster so we give up and let him come into our room to sleep... - never the bed he knows thats off limits! -

    Can anyone please offer any helpful advise on getting Charlie out of the bedroom and into the laundry not just for the all nighters but for the little visits to the laundry too...

    We have been going to bark busters though I have found them to be just a little bit harsh and the "bah squirt" routine does not work at all! it did for a few days but thats all! bark busters also gave us a "training pillow" which I refuse to throw at the closed door... I did it ince and it scared the living christ out of me! I cant imagine what it did to poor Charlie on the other side!

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    Any help would help!

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    Look...Charlie needs to learn a bit of independence! A crate would do wonders for you actually. It would be safe to have Charlie in there for an hour...when you for example have to shop...our pick up kids from school etc.

    We have all done it. Put our puppy in the laundry...he is SCREAMING and you go back...that was a BIG BIG mistake!!! What he is teaching you is to be a push-over

    You have GOT to leave him in the laundry at night. DO NOT go back! Have a set routine every night so he knows what is going to happen at bedtime. Take him out for his last toilet...take him to laundry...put him on bed and say "sleep time" and LEAVE. When you go back in the morning...don't make a big fuss...take him outside immediately and let him go toilet. You are going TO HAVE TO stand the sound! DO NOT even talk to him when he is screaming...NO COMMUNICATION when he has been put to bed! Ignore him...100%! Under normal circumstances...it will last 5-7 days on this routine, but if you go back just once...you have ruined it! Buy the BEST ear plugs you can get and go to sleep. Make sure however that Charlie can not hurt himself in the laundry, so you don't have an "excuse" to check on him. TRUST ME...it WILL work He might be stubborn...you just have to be MORE stubborn

    Do you want a dog that is going to listen to you AND your other half...to follow YOUR rules or are you going to follow Charlie's rules?

    Crate training is excellent! I can explain this further to you if you want to know and trust me...it is NOT cruel. Charlie will eventually see the crate as his special place...his safe haven...his den I tell my staffies at night..."go to bed" and they both trot off to their individual crates...and they are 6 and 9 months

    But you are going to have to be consistent or else you will have a dog that will rule your house.

    My dogs are spoilt too, but there is no way they are going to control where they sleep etc. They are NOT in my bedroom or in my bed!

    Remember...it is a lot easier to teach Charlie now than correct a "bad" behaviour later
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    Thanks heaps Cleasanta!

    I have read a bit about crate training and to be honest I really haven't had this big of a independence problem with a puppy before! So I never really gave what I read a second thought! Though I think I will definately take your advise and crate train him! We really cant all live together in harmony with Charlie making his own decisions for us!

    So we just gently lead him into the crate and pop him in there for bed time... should we put water in there for him or anything else? we currently dont give him water at night as we've found its minimised the amount of accidents during the night and he always wakes me up at 5:30am to go outside for the number 2! but i've found that different people have different opinions on controlling their water. he just isnt allowed any after about 8pm anything after that and we've found he's just guzzling it for fun!

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    You need to step back from your puppy, as hard as that may sound. You have allowed (as we all do at some stage) him to become so totally attached to you at the exclusion of others, and this is not healthy for either dog or family.

    Have your OH feed him, do everything he can with him - INSTEAD OF YOU. The pup has bonded with you, so nothing will damage that, but you must give him a chance to bond with OH and others. It is imperative actually.

    Food, grooming, everything. You also need to part from him during times of the day when you would normally be with him non-stop. He must develop some independence (for want of a better word) Spending some time away from you regularly will help him in the long run.

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    Its true devils advocate! I have unintentionally make my puppy a sooky lala!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliesmum View Post
    Thanks heaps Cleasanta!

    I have read a bit about crate training and to be honest I really haven't had this big of a independence problem with a puppy before! So I never really gave what I read a second thought! Though I think I will definately take your advise and crate train him! We really cant all live together in harmony with Charlie making his own decisions for us!

    So we just gently lead him into the crate and pop him in there for bed time... should we put water in there for him or anything else? we currently dont give him water at night as we've found its minimised the amount of accidents during the night and he always wakes me up at 5:30am to go outside for the number 2! but i've found that different people have different opinions on controlling their water. he just isnt allowed any after about 8pm anything after that and we've found he's just guzzling it for fun!
    hmmm...having an 11 week old puppy in the crate at night might be asking for trouble unless you are willing to set your alarm and get up in the middle of the night. Really...crate training should initially be done during the day and for short periods of time. Laundry is a better option for night time to begin with...IMO. Charlie can't hold his bladder all night in the crate and trust me...you don't want a dog that thinks it is ok to soil in his crate.

    My dogs have not been in the crate at night until they were 100% night toilet trained
    Last edited by Cleasanta; 11-18-2009 at 07:11 PM.

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    perfect! thankyou so much cleasanta! you are so helpful Im with you! I really dont want him to learn that its ok to do his business in the crate!

    I really would have just kept spoiling him rotten if I hadn't have thought to ask for help! just cause its easier despite the fact I really dont want a naughty boy!

    Now I have my eyes open OH and I are going to fix these little teething problems! He's spending time with Charlie as we speak!

    What good boys!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliesmum View Post
    perfect! thankyou so much cleasanta! you are so helpful Im with you! I really dont want him to learn that its ok to do his business in the crate!

    I really would have just kept spoiling him rotten if I hadn't have thought to ask for help! just cause its easier despite the fact I really dont want a naughty boy!

    Now I have my eyes open OH and I are going to fix these little teething problems! He's spending time with Charlie as we speak!

    What good boys!!!
    You can still spoil him rotten...just on your terms...if you get my drift

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    Spoil...means spoil. In the true meaning of the word.

    It's good to hear your OH is spending time with him, but I really can't push enough for the fact that right now it needs to be your OH who does almost everything. Feeds him, grooms him, the list goes on if you get my drift...

    He must learn that he is depensive on you both, and he must also learn where he sits (or should sit) in your family heirachy.

    Poodles (what's a spoodle, by the way?) are extremely intelligent, so you should be able to fix these conditioned problems relatively quickly. Be firm, and above all else, be consistent. Happy puppyhood.

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