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    We could always ask K9Force...he is a dog behaviourist and I can see he is a member of this group

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan View Post
    My almost 10 week old pup has started soft mouthing the passed couple of days. Is this something that should be discouraged like his harder mouthing or is it acceptable because he's not actually biting down?

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    Mouthing is natural. I would allow it to the point that you feel it is unacceptable. When you think pup is biting too hard yelp and move away from him. He will soon learn what is appropriate and what is not. Cappy had the softest mouth on any GSD I have ever seen - and he was taught like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    We could always ask K9Force...he is a dog behaviourist and I can see he is a member of this group
    Sorry but behaviourists need a university degree to be able to call themselves that.

    Monash runs a university course that deals with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    Sorry but behaviourists need a university degree to be able to call themselves that.

    Monash runs a university course that deals with this
    I wonder if Cesar Millan has a university degree in Dog Behaviour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    I wonder if Cesar Millan has a university degree in Dog Behaviour?
    Probably not, but then again I am surprised he hasn't been mauled by a dog yet - I wonder what the outtakes of his TV show - a show made for television to sell a product not made out of benevolence to actually help people - are like

    Then again, does he call himself a behaviourist? I thought he was "dog whisperer"?

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    Thanks everyone for your replies. When he mouths and applies pressure he gets a warning growl and I remove myself from the situation. If he follows me and continues he gets put in timeout for 2 minutes. He seems to have caught on quickly that it's not acceptable as it's become alot less frequent.
    It's just the last few days that when I'm scratching his belly or something similar he will gently put his mouth over my hand and it almost seems affectionate, if he does begin to apply pressure I remove my hand and it's the end of his belly rub.

    Cleasanta, thank you for your post. I have two young children and alot of the things written in regards to how puppies react to children with the running away with a scream and puppy thinking its a game is exactly what we've been seeing here. (Of course, they are always fully supervised together).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    Probably not, but then again I am surprised he hasn't been mauled by a dog yet - I wonder what the outtakes of his TV show - a show made for television to sell a product not made out of benevolence to actually help people - are like

    Then again, does he call himself a behaviourist? I thought he was "dog whisperer"?
    Of course he is a dog psychologist/behaviourist..no matter what he calls himself. Cesar rehabilitated dogs BEFORE his show started. You might not personally believe in his methods, but A LOT of people do. I know that Delta Society Trainers do not believe in his ways (as told to me by a Delta Trainer) and that is ok. They believe in praise/encourage good behaviour...ignore bad behaviour. In a perfect world...that would be great if it worked. But ignoring bad/unwanted behaviour doesn't always work. I am not saying you have to give your dog a floggin' when he is portraying an unwanted behaviour...but that the behaviour MUST be addressed and dealt with in a calm and controlled manner.

    Cesar Millan
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    Born César Millán Favela
    August 27, 1969 (1969-08-27) (age 40)
    Culiacán, Mexico
    Residence Los Angeles, California, U.S.A
    Nationality Mexican-American
    Occupation Dog trainer
    Employer National Geographic Channel
    Self-employed (Dog Psychology Center)
    Known for Dog Whisperer
    Spouse(s) Ilusion Millan
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    Cesar's Official Website
    "If you don't control yourself, your self controls you."

    Cesar Millan (born August 27, 1969[2]) is a professional dog trainer widely known for his television series The Dog Whisperer, now in its sixth season and broadcast in the US, Australia and Europe,[3] as well as his best-selling book,[4] Cesar's Way.

    Prior to The Dog Whisperer series, Millan had focused on rehabilitating especially aggressive dogs[5] and had operated the Dog Psychology Center[6] in South Los Angeles (2002–2008). He has co-authored several books on dogs and dog-training, participates in numerous philanthropic activities, and in 2009 in conjunction with IMG, introduced a monthly magazine titled Cesar's Way.[7]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan View Post
    Cleasanta, thank you for your post. I have two young children and alot of the things written in regards to how puppies react to children with the running away with a scream and puppy thinking its a game is exactly what we've been seeing here. (Of course, they are always fully supervised together).
    Children running with their little arms dangling at their sides and screaming "in fun" actually triggers the prey drive in dogs. A lot of dogs like squeaky toys and the reason for this is...the high-pitched squeak actually sounds like an animal in distress to them. That is why they will pick it up...squeak it...shake it as if they are killing a prey.

    Sumo is a Staffy...Staffies are terriers, very powerful and they are very mouth fixated. We taught him VERY early that "no teeth" MEANS NO TEETH. Now he just licks us to death instead. The occasional mouthing still comes through some times when he gets really excited during "licking" sessions and he is told immediately it is not ok with a loud "NO TEETH" and I tell him to leave. Being a male staffy...he needs to know I AM the boss and there are no exceptions. I am a calm and fair leader and with that you get a balanced dog

    It is ok if you don't believe in being "Alpha" But you DO need to be their leader...the person who guides them...who teaches them right from wrong The day we got this little bundle of energy in the door...we made a commitment to them that we would give them food, water, love and shelter, but we also commited to training them...making them balanced...making sure all their needs are fulfilled...on a doggy level

    Good luck

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    I don't like Cesar because I believe he borders on cruelty in some of the things he does and more to the point, a lot of what he does should not be put out into the public because people will try what they see on TV. That isn't the purpose of this thread.

    I hope you have success with your pup Megan - I do think the growling is not necessary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    I don't like Cesar because I believe he borders on cruelty in some of the things he does and more to the point, a lot of what he does should not be put out into the public because people will try what they see on TV. That isn't the purpose of this thread.

    I hope you have success with your pup Megan - I do think the growling is not necessary

    Well said Occy..

    I don't like Caesar Milan & or he's use of electric collars at all, IMO there is no need to train a dog using pain,surely there are much better ways to train animals without inflicting pain on them. Omg i so would luv to put an elec collar on he's man bits & zap him every time he opens he's mouth or moves

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