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Thread: What is a BYB? and What Everyone Should Know About It.

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    Default What is a BYB? and What Everyone Should Know About It.

    What IS a BYB?
    BYB is an abbreviation, meaning - Backyard Breeder, which is a term used to describe irresponsible breeding of animals. Often this is due to ignorance or neglect where an amimal in care becomes pregant because the owner has failed to have them desexed. In other cases animals are deliberatly bred so the animals can be sold to pet shops or new owners.

    Backyard breeding contributes to the overpopulation of animals in the community. Uncontrolled breeding and overpopluation ultimately leads to the euthanasia of fit and healthy unwanted animals every year.

    With the tragic number of shelter animals losing their lives from lack of homes. It is always recommended NOT to purchase from backyard breeders, pet shops or puppy mills and that people seeking a pet will adopt from a shelter, rescue group or registered breeder.

    There are many differences between a responsible breeder and irrisponsible breeder:
    In relation to Dogs/pups, an irrisponsible breeder usually has a dog as a pet, intending to breed in order to beifit his/herself, this could be to experience the miricle of the birth, to keep one or two of the pups for themselves as a play mate for another pet or to make a bit of money. Irrisponsible breeders believe it is as easy as throwing two dogs together to make puppies, that it is and should be an easy and natural process.
    Responsible breeders on the other hand do not, and only have the Dogs interests in mind. Responsible breeders do not sell their pups to pet stores. Pups are raised with much planning, socialization and medical attention. They vaule their reputation for seeking to improve the breed. They breed only dogs that are themselves good pets and fine representatives of their breed. A reponsible breeder will evaluate the health of their bitch or stud by testing for a number of things such as OFA (hip radiographic certification), CERF (Canine Eye Registry Foundation), Penn-Hip (hip joint laxity), SAS (subaortic stenosis, a heart defect common in some breeds), and thyroid. Blood tests and papers for both Bitch and Stud dogs to detect for sexually transitted diseases, like Brucellosis, proir to breeding a litter. By having these tests, it will reduce the chances of producing an unhealthy puppy. A responsible breeder will also be perpard to provide a full, lifetime written garantee covering genetic disease and temperament problems.
    It is for this reason many people are annoyed at people still want to breed from their dogs...Unless you are a registered breeder PLEASE do not increase the number of pups born into a world without a certain future.

    Encourage people to adopt from a shelter or rescue organisation, If it is a purebred you are looking for, then try a breed rescue or registered breeder. Never purchase from a pet shop, commercial kennel or backyard breeder! The outcome of that would be more and more euthanased pups than ever before, as a result of overpopulation. So PLEASE I ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER BYB and get your dog/s desexed!!
    Last edited by Paw-Sha; 10-05-2009 at 11:56 AM.

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    A big thank you Paw-Sha for your educating post, lets hope poeple take note & listen to your advice & not breed from their pets or buy pets from pet shops, byb's or commercial kennels.
    Last edited by Aussie Floyd; 10-04-2009 at 11:49 AM.

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    Ask yourself where the BYB's get the dogs in the first place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    Ask yourself where the BYB's get the dogs in the first place!
    ANYWHERE! Responsible registered breeders can only do so much.

    We sell on limit to control those wanting to breed with papers... we sell with cash back incentives for desexing but you cannot stop someone from byb one of your dogs, chances are you will never even know its happening....

    Although early desexing is always thought to be an option you have to take into concideration the breed you are dealing with and what outcome early spay/neutering will have on them... I refuse to desex a pup b4 the age of 6 months as do many vets.

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    Hi Paw Sha,

    Unfortunately all you have said is very true
    Many of the pet shops you see in malls actually get their dogs from backyard breeders or even worse - puppy mills. It is hard to raise awareness about this because not many people would believe that the adorable pooch they bout from pets paradise may have been.

    Some time ago on Oprah they had a segment about puppy mills. I'm sure you could find it on youtube, but here is a good read from the Oprah website.

    Investigating Puppy Mills -

    Busta the apricot poodle x spaniel

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    i am going to get so trashed for this but i cannot help it

    not all "backyard breeders" are bad. that title is almost a dirty word. There are many 'registered breeders' out there who are terrible, keeping the dogs in kennels or just in the backyard, some are given little socialization, especially if the breeder doesn't believe it will be a show dog.

    also, and i mean to cause no offence, but A LOT (not all!!) breeders tend to breed for the look of their dogs, they breed ones that have won many things because they have won, not because they have a great temperament, (which in my opinion is the MOST important thing) or whether they can do the job they were originally bred for, or even if they are particularly healthy.

    once again i do not wish to cause offence and i no that there are many many good registered breeders our there, but its important to tell people not just to buy from a registered breeder because they are registered. we need to tell people what to look for when choosing a breeder and what to stay away from
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    Personally I don't like the term Backyard Breeder. It implies that anyone who keeps their dogs primarily as pets is an irresponsible breeder. This is certainly not the case.

    There are many ethical, registered breeders who keep only three or four dogs (sometimes less, sometimes more) as family pets. The dogs are shown and/or trialed and the occasional carefully planned litter is bred from health tested dogs. Certainly this was what I did when I was still showing. I would never keep more dogs than could comfortably be kept as house pets. There were always long waiting lists for pups of my breeding and perhaps once every 3 years I would breed a litter if I wanted a pup for myself. Even though my backyard was 12 acres I guess I could have been classed as a backyarder since my dogs were pets and never kennel dogs.

    Actually I would not buy a pup raised in a kennel situation. House raised pups are much better socialised and far easier to house train. Certainly my Pug puppies were asking to go outside by 7/8 weeks and Weyland Deerhound was 100% housetrained at 9 weeks.

    There are those I call "Get Rich Quick Breeders". They jump on the bandwagon when a breed becomes popular and churn out as many pups as they can with no regard for health, temperament or the animals future welfare. The puppies do not usually come with papers but some do so it pays to ask the breeder how long they have been in their breed. If they have been in the breed five years or less and have a kennel full of brood bitches avoid them like the plague.

    If a breeder refers to their pups as Oodles or Doodles or some other cutesy name don't buy from them. They are trying to sell you a crossbreed which may look nothing like either parent or any other Doodle once it is grown. If a breeder tries to sell you a "tea-cup" puppy don't buy from them unless you want to pay top dollar for an unhealthy runt.

    A responsible breeder will ask you a number of questions before you even get to see their puppies. Have you owned the breed before? What made you decide on the breed? They will usually ask you about previous dogs you have owned. They will explain about health concerns within the breed, exercise and grooming needs, training etc. If you have done your homework first you will also know what questions to ask the breeder. Ask a Deerhound breeder about hip scores and you will probably be shown the door as HD is virtually unknown in the breed. Ask about liver shunt or cardiomyopathy and they will know you have done your homework.

    If a breeder/seller asks no questions but simply takes your money and hands you a pup be prepared for problems. You've just been had by a puppy-shark. Makes no difference if they operate from a backyard or a fancy kennel. You have been done by someone who doesn't care so long as they line their pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaz Tarja View Post
    also, and i mean to cause no offence, but A LOT (not all!!) breeders tend to breed for the look of their dogs, they breed ones that have won many things because they have won, not because they have a great temperament, (which in my opinion is the MOST important thing) or whether they can do the job they were originally bred for, or even if they are particularly healthy.
    This train of thought can open it's own can of worms. Many breeds of dogs have been bred with a strong consideration for their looks for centuries and even longer. I agree with you that it is only a part of what they are but no one part should be ignored, to do so is at the expense of the breed and individual as a whole.

    Most breeds these days cannot be performance tested as per their orginal purpose. This doesn't mean that breed should become extinct, but that it's form, looks, temperament and health can indicate function.

    My breed for example. They cannot hunt wolves anymore, it is simply never going to happen. They have always - for nine hundred years - been bred for beauty as well as function.

    People who breed for money are the ones to watch. Whether registered breeders or not they can be spotted. If they are simply selling extra pups that don't make the grade as show dogs with no thought or regard for the suitabillity of the new owner, only the cash - then buyer beware.

    People who breed for nothing other than the price at the end are the ones to be super wary of. You cannot purcahse pups from commercial places because it is easier or you feel sorry for them - you are just letting yourself in for so much heartbreak if they end up with health and temperament problems. Plus you are encouraging people to continue exploiting dogs for money by handing over your cash.

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    Elitist obnoxious breeders are the main reason we have backyard breeders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culprit View Post
    Elitist obnoxious breeders are the main reason we have backyard breeders.
    Oh my .

    You have no idea just how close to the truth you might be.
    I have add that view before , I even began a thread on it on another forum ( lets say it didn't go over well )

    Problem is , that is another broad brush stroke.
    Many ,many breeders are the most lovely,helpful people you would ever want to meet.

    It is sadly those few , that then create the ripple effect.
    Many would argue that if you have to deal with just one arrogant breeder in your quest to find your pup , then it should be worth it.

    Well nope,I certainly do not agree with that.

    Every single person deserves some form of respect whether you assume otherwise or not.

    However,there are still a large percentige of the population out there that just simply have no clue , and this is where informative posts such as this come inyo play.

    Just because you may be aware of the issue does not mean the person next to you will.

    Disclaimer and white flag - I am not referring to all breeders
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