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    Hi,

    I have spoken to the vet and he said that it is ok to feed our puppy and dog human mince meat and rice, my questions is how much can I feed them.
    Max = 2.5yr old JRT x Mini Foxy
    Mia = 3 Month old Eng x American Staffy.

    Any guidelines would be helpful.

    I am currently feeding Mia a cup of mince meat and rice and Max a cup and a half of mince meat and rice.

    Please Help.
    Last edited by spunkymonkey1985; 10-02-2009 at 07:31 PM.

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    Are you feeding them anything besides the mince and rice ? I think that this is not a balanced diet for a dog, maybe some offal ( heart, liver, kidneys etc) mixed through the mince. Some vegetables would be good too. Not corn though,dogs can't digest it. In no way am I an expert, just speaking from my own experience. There are lots of helpful people on this site who will offer advice.

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    So how much does each dog weigh and how big (in kilos) do you expect the puppy to get? Growing puppies need more food than similar sized adult dogs. How much rice to meat are you feeding? Ie how many grams of rice, how many grams of meat?

    I experimented with a recovery diet for Frosty (when she has tummy upset but was still hungry) - that consisted of about 4oz steamed white rice and 2oz boiled chicken fillet three times a day when she was about 15 kg (7 months or so). But it's difficult to tell. I use a 300ml plastic container as a measure and weigh the food that goes into that - so tonight's recovery diet was 300ml steamed rice and approx 150ml chicken casserole (home made chicken, rice, vegies, bran/oats). She's still hungry but she upchucked all of last night's dinner (what a waste) and I haven't seen a proper number 2 from her yet so she's not getting any more until things look normal at both ends. And she did try to eat some more fertilizer this arvo so I'm not looking forward to tonight either. She had much less than last night though, and I think I will stay away from that oval until there has been much more rain.

    Another website I visited suggested if the puppy eats everything you give it - up the amount by 25% next time until you reach capacity of puppy. I'd suggest adding a time limit like puppy eats everything inside 2 minutes (especially when it comes to staffy speed eaters) then increase next meal. This might not be appropriate for a garbage guts dog but the speed that it gets through the food should slow down as it reaches capacity. Young puppies feed - three times a day, older ones - twice a day (I forget what age to swap over but it depends on breed a bit and some of us feed twice a day (half the daily ration each time) forever. Also the "ration" gets reduced by supplementary feeds like marrow bones or training treats, or increased if there has been a lot of exercise (flat out running).

    Currently I use the kibble pack as a guide to how much, and for a desexed dog you can lower the amount to feed by a third.

    I suggest weighing what you give - weigh the meat and the rice separate because they have different nutritional value and you need to get the balance right - and keep a record. If your dog is getting fat (weigh the dog or use tape measure) - you can cut back or up the exercise, if it starts getting skinny - you need to feed more. If you write down what you're giving it makes it much easier to get it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emma View Post
    Are you feeding them anything besides the mince and rice ? I think that this is not a balanced diet for a dog, maybe some offal ( heart, liver, kidneys etc) mixed through the mince. Some vegetables would be good too. Not corn though,dogs can't digest it. In no way am I an expert, just speaking from my own experience. There are lots of helpful people on this site who will offer advice.
    Mia went to the vets the other day with a sore tummy, they kept her over night and told me not to feed her any vegies cos she cannot digest them. To keep up the meat and rice (for carbs) to keep her fuller for longer, but the little porker does not seem to get full.
    She will go and see if Max has anything left, and if he does she will eat that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    So how much does each dog weigh and how big (in kilos) do you expect the puppy to get? Growing puppies need more food than similar sized adult dogs. How much rice to meat are you feeding? Ie how many grams of rice, how many grams of meat?

    I experimented with a recovery diet for Frosty (when she has tummy upset but was still hungry) - that consisted of about 4oz steamed white rice and 2oz boiled chicken fillet three times a day when she was about 15 kg (7 months or so). But it's difficult to tell. I use a 300ml plastic container as a measure and weigh the food that goes into that - so tonight's recovery diet was 300ml steamed rice and approx 150ml chicken casserole (home made chicken, rice, vegies, bran/oats). She's still hungry but she upchucked all of last night's dinner (what a waste) and I haven't seen a proper number 2 from her yet so she's not getting any more until things look normal at both ends. And she did try to eat some more fertilizer this arvo so I'm not looking forward to tonight either. She had much less than last night though, and I think I will stay away from that oval until there has been much more rain.

    Another website I visited suggested if the puppy eats everything you give it - up the amount by 25% next time until you reach capacity of puppy. I'd suggest adding a time limit like puppy eats everything inside 2 minutes (especially when it comes to staffy speed eaters) then increase next meal. This might not be appropriate for a garbage guts dog but the speed that it gets through the food should slow down as it reaches capacity. Young puppies feed - three times a day, older ones - twice a day (I forget what age to swap over but it depends on breed a bit and some of us feed twice a day (half the daily ration each time) forever. Also the "ration" gets reduced by supplementary feeds like marrow bones or training treats, or increased if there has been a lot of exercise (flat out running).

    Currently I use the kibble pack as a guide to how much, and for a desexed dog you can lower the amount to feed by a third.

    I suggest weighing what you give - weigh the meat and the rice separate because they have different nutritional value and you need to get the balance right - and keep a record. If your dog is getting fat (weigh the dog or use tape measure) - you can cut back or up the exercise, if it starts getting skinny - you need to feed more. If you write down what you're giving it makes it much easier to get it right.
    Max at the moment is about 9.5 Kg's and Mia is about 6.3kg's.
    I am currently adding one cup raw rice (= to two cups cooked) to a kilo of raw mince.
    I don't know the exact weight in what I am feeding them but Max is about a cup and a half and Mia is a Cup, I am currently feeding them those rations twice a day.

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    Be wary of feeding human grade mince as it contains little to no calcium. You are better off getting pet mince that contains ground bones as well as meat.

    If you don't want to do that, talk to your vet about mineral supplements. Or try adding fish like tinned salmon that contains soft bones and therefore calcium.

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