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Thread: Puppy Mills & Backyard Breeders - The Truth

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    My experience is that even registered ANKC breeders can sometimes morph into puppy mills of sorts. I got a dog from a registered breeder and was very happy with her. Some years later I went back to the same beeder and they were pumping out 150 pups a year and had stopped showing their dogs, no health testing. I got a pup and she was diagnosed with ED at 9 months old and had a very dodgy temperament. Meeting other people with some of these dogs I started to realise there were all sorts of issues such as PRA etc.

    The dogs were not uncared for and were healthy etc but they did live their lives in a kennel complex and there were a lot of breeding dogs. The breeder continues to breed from 2 of my dogs siblings despite a couple of us having ED pups from that litter. Several people complained to the ANKC but got brushed off although I think they did send a letter noting the complaints to the breeder, but it made no difference.

    So my next dog a BC I did a lot more homework and found a good working dog breeder. I went through lots of hoops to get one of her dogs and he has turned out to be a beautiful working sheepdog. Nothing to do with ANKC obviously but from top UK ISDS and Australian proven working lines. She stands by all her dogs and I have got to know her really well and she continues to take an interest in the progess of my young dog.

    As to people buying pups from pet shops, most of my acqauaintences do this. I do try and point out why they shouldnt but it falls on deaf ears - they simply have no comprehension. There is probably a stage in my life before I knew so much more about dogs where I would have done the same.

    Nowadays I tend to go to working dog rescues and see what they have to offer and I have a wonderful Koolie and a Kelpie from rescue in the last 6 months.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 10-07-2010 at 09:39 AM.

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    This is a good post! Let's all be vigilant.

    Thanks for this!

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    Hey Magdalena! Would you please tell me that what is a puppy mill?

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    Read the thread.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Sad to say my mum and dad were like this but no that bad a least i tuck the time to look after them and im sad to say that thay were olny in for the money
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    until recently i ignorantly thought pet shops get the puppies and kittens from regular families that have "accidental" litters or breeders that have pups they couldnt sell..how wrong i was. i am extremly affected by the 'oscars law' vid i saw on facebook and ever since seeing it i cant shake the feeling that the "breeder" where i bought my lab from may be dodgy..as said in above post this breeder has two facilities where they breed labs..pups available all year round, no parents of the pups to be found when picking up my girl..internet advertised pups... what do you guys think? am i just being paranoid?

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    Not being offered to meet the parents and pups all year round definitely sounds like a poor breeder. Hard to know how bad he may have been if you didn't get to see the breeding dogs or find out how many litters they are made to have. But not the type of breeder you would want to knowingly support.

    But you didn't know this then, what's done is done and your dog is lucky to have landed in a good home.

    Did you get any information about health screening when you got him (her?)?

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    she did give us alot of info about how to look after the pup what to feed her what to feed her (eukanuba) etc
    puppy was vacinanted micro chipped and vet checked..she gave us a certificate and my pup came with a behavioural and heath guarantee..
    because of all this i didnt think twice at the time.. but having since done a bit of research on the subject all these documents can be alot of smoke and mirrors..
    i did notice when picking up my dog that this breeder that was ment to be a lab breeder had all these beagle dogs in boarding inclosures (not tiny cages)
    although they do advertise on the website that they train and board dogs as well but i find it a little strange they were all adult beagles?

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    Hi elle. Your pup is very cute, I'm glad to hear she has a loving home.

    Did she come with ANKC registration? It would be a blue (red in Qld) or orange form with her pedigree and breeder details on it.

    And I think Beloz meant health testing information as in any testing or screening done on her parents to rule out inherited conditions, hip scores are a good example. Not all breeds have that as compulsory, but many do.

    In all honesty your breeder doesn't sound too bad. She's recommended premium food, and given you decent info.

    The beagles could belong to another family member, or they may have even been boarding them for a breeder? Hopefully...

    Is strange though that you didn't get to meet a parent, dad often lives elsewhere but the mum should've been available.

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    oh yes dont get me wrong my dog is gorgeous with a wonderful gentle nature, shes everything a lab should be, i just didnt want to ignore the alarm bells.. also i want to get another lab next year and didnt want to return to the same place if theyre misttreating the bitches u know?
    ok so i just got out her file.. i got a deed of agreement which state breed, sex, d.o.b, microchip number, heath warrenty and a nsw companion animals register sheet (pink sheet)
    thanks yoiuve helped to put my mind at ease id hate to think my darling had been mistreated
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