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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Health means jack all when they're dying in shelters.
    Yeh, and the sky is blue, but that's got nothing to do with what I said.

    I was merely trying clarify what Peter and his vet had said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    You got told off? FFS? Seriously?

    Oh my, I'd last 20 minutes. I'm NOT laughing this time. *grumpy face*
    Yeah, by my boss.
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    Cross breeds being healthier than purebreds is a myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    Yeh.. funny how people claim cross breeding removes health issues.. it's actually increases the risk by 50%.. they can get health issues from both the breeds.

    It would be like putting a pug with breathing problems with a cavalier with a heart murmur.. you almost guarantee a messed up sick puppy.
    Exactly.
    I can't remember the % (if there even is one)
    But its quite likely mixed breeds will pick up the worst health traits from both sides of the family.
    The risk purebreds are at, is because of all the inbreeding being done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Cross breeds being healthier than purebreds is a myth.
    A myth tkay can well attest to herself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Cross breeds being healthier than purebreds is a myth.
    Much the same as purebreds being healthier than x bred, all animals get problems nothing will prevent that, not even exclusive breeding.

    The other question i asked earlier that was never answered was with all this breeding for perfection in health and temprement etc. etc. why dont we have the perfect dogs yet, i mean the breeding has been going for on for hundreds of years with some breeds?

    Thanks Tkay for clearing that up for others i actually thought it was quite clear what i meant.
    As for my vet he is a real person and never holds back in speaking his mind, i paying him to look after my dogs not piss in my pocket. Thats a big call telling me he says only what i want to hear because i am paying him when you dont even know him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    Okay, at the risk if being flamed again I am going to put an idea out there that has been bothering me since our discussion yesterday. If I am wrong in my theory please tell me, I am not trying to be argumentative.

    Ok so there are lots of pure breeds out there with health problems specific to that breed. Why?

    Is this a result of the pure breeding itself.

    First crossbreeds would not necessarily be healthy, probably not second crosses but from there on in, surely the genetic mix would make for healthier dogs. Just like humans. We have a wide genetic base and mostly produce healthy offspring, occasionally 2 genetic carriers happen to get together and produce an unhealthy infant, it's not all that common and we as humans beings accept this risk when we decide to make a family. If there is a wider genetic base there is less chance of genetic defaults.
    Good breeders breed away from those genetic problems. There is also the advent of DNA testing which has helped GSDs no end in the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    Hmmmmm, obviously not REASONABLE enough for a reply.

    Or maybe I'm on ignore. Shame , I really was interested in people's opinion.
    Or just perhaps people aren't glued to the internet waiting for you to post -,-

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    Much the same as purebreds being healthier than x bred, all animals get problems nothing will prevent that, not even exclusive breeding.

    The other question i asked earlier that was never answered was with all this breeding for perfection in health and temprement etc. etc. why dont we have the perfect dogs yet, i mean the breeding has been going for on for hundreds of years with some breeds?

    Thanks Tkay for clearing that up for others i actually thought it was quite clear what i meant.
    As for my vet he is a real person and never holds back in speaking his mind, i paying him to look after my dogs not piss in my pocket. Thats a big call telling me he says only what i want to hear because i am paying him when you dont even know him.
    Whoa, and where did you read that?
    Are you saying the thousands of dollars breeders spend on health testing is a waste of money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Whoa, and where did you read that?
    Are you saying the thousands of dollars breeders spend on health testing is a waste of money?
    Not a total waste but then out of every litter how many make "the grade"?
    Like i said with all this "pure breeding" where's the perfect dog you all strive for? you aren't even getting a majority in the litter up to the standards you set.
    Why don't you show me some facts that prove otherwise.
    Would it also be true to say that alot of breeds have been derived from crossbreeding through the years. A recent example in the last century would be the ACD, how many breeds went in to make that?

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