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    Tkay IF Jenna's "breeder" had any scruples they would not have cross bred. Yes - you love your dog and she is beautiful - but her problems are one of the main arguments against ANY breeding that does not go through multiple health tests.

    I don't know of one person who breeds x breeds who also health tests - be assured not one dog who is sold through a pet store has been health checked aside from being wormed at best!

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    Imagine if everyone who thought their dog was beautiful, loyal and loving bred it.
    Just think about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Imagine if everyone who thought their dog was beautiful, loyal and loving bred it.
    Just think about that.
    I dont want to and you can't make me!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    There'd be pugs and cavaliers all over the place...hang on there ARE Cavaliers and pugs all over the place.
    I think you mean Pugaliers
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    Wow all this purebreed breeding and the dogs still aren't perfect, still a larger quantity on the limited register.
    Hows longs purebreed breeding being going for? They still haven't got it right.
    By your theories of this perfect breeding over time shouldn't they all be top quality by now given how many generations that have passed.
    Tkay i for one wasn't upset by your comment i dont live a self absorbed world of political correctness, wasn't that long ago i saw a soup nazi on TV, oh thats right he was called that by a jewish person mmmm.......(thinks double standard)
    As for money and dogs, ALL breeders are in it for the money otherwise why would we have such exhoborant prices on dogs.
    Here's a tip if you want to stop BYB/puppy mills from making money start offering quality purebreed dogs free of charge, what would be the point of puppy mills/BYB if people were getting quality purebreed dogs free?

    Wow, you sure like to pick little bits out to chew on donchya? I seem to have to repeat myself a lot in regard to this particular point:

    Not all purebred dogs have been bred responsibly. Many mills and BYB's are purebred based. Registered breeder does not automatically mean responsible breeder.

    Are you at least starting to understand???

    Responsible breeding, is NOT done for profit, whether you agree with me or not. Talk to a responsible breeder and ask them how much they have invested in their breeding program and ask them if it is profitable.

    Importing a single dog/bitch can cost many, many thousands of dollars (excluding the initial purchase price!) in transport, quarantine fees etc. Even semen costs are expensive. (Importing is done to improve and deepen the gene pool for the benefit of the offspring!!!).

    Just because a breeder sells pups for upwards of $1,500 does not mean they make a profit, and you have shown yourself to be ignorant in this regard. I understand you wanting to defend your position and those of your friends in here but if you are gonna have a go at others in doing so, make sure you get your facts straight first.

    Hey Anne, if you are watching, do you agree with Peter on this thread too? I'm surprised by your lack of contribution to this thread so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CleasantasLittleHelper View Post
    Talk to a responsible breeder and ask them how much they have invested in their breeding program and ask them if it is profitable.
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CleasantasLittleHelper View Post
    Wow, you sure like to pick little bits out to chew on donchya? I seem to have to repeat myself a lot in regard to this particular point:

    Not all purebred dogs have been bred responsibly. Many mills and BYB's are purebred based. Registered breeder does not automatically mean responsible breeder.

    Are you at least starting to understand???

    Responsible breeding, is NOT done for profit, whether you agree with me or not. Talk to a responsible breeder and ask them how much they have invested in their breeding program and ask them if it is profitable.

    Importing a single dog/bitch can cost many, many thousands of dollars (excluding the initial purchase price!) in transport, quarantine fees etc. Even semen costs are expensive. (Importing is done to improve and deepen the gene pool for the benefit of the offspring!!!).

    Just because a breeder sells pups for upwards of $1,500 does not mean they make a profit, and you have shown yourself to be ignorant in this regard. I understand you wanting to defend your position and those of your friends in here but if you are gonna have a go at others in doing so, make sure you get your facts straight first.

    Hey Anne, if you are watching, do you agree with Peter on this thread too? I'm surprised by your lack of contribution to this thread so far.
    I'm far from being a dog expert but I agree with this post. I know that the reg breeder we went through had their stud dog come over from WA so they had the transport costs, plus the ultrasound for the bitch, the vet checks, the 1st lot of vacc, the worming, the registration of the pups, the list goes on.
    The next bitch that they are breeding with is being artificially insemenated (sp?) which is very costly.
    So no, I don't believe that all reg breeders are in it for profit.

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    Responsible breeders do it for the love of the BREED and the competition...irresponsible breeders due it for the love of their wallet!

    Any responsible breeder strives for perfection in their dogs. Breeding from top quality dogs doesn't necessarily mean "perfect" pups. The puppies in a litter might have the same Sire and Dam...but look nothing alike all depending on the % of the gene pool they have received from either Mum or Dad. I look NOTHING like my sister and we have the same Mum and Dad!

    Ask any responsible breeder how many bitches they have purchased before they ended up with their "special" brood bitch...the one that could bring something good to the gene pool. Now ask them how much money they have spent on finding that special dog to service her to compliment and perfect the puppies and therefore the breed!

    Even Championship dogs can produce crap offspring. We have seen that with a very special Rottweiler. He won MANY shows...specialty shows and he was close to perfection...but his offspring is nothing special...hasn't done much in the show ring and some have temperament issues.

    We have just desexed our boy, so he is out of the gene pool. If our girl doesn't work out either...then she will desexed too and out of the gene pool. Then we are back to square one and have to go searching for another bitch....and hopefully that "special" bitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    Some breeders do it for the love of the fact they can play god and turn their breed into mutant unhealthy costly sad creatures too.
    Uhumm...and you would call the responsible???

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    Im so so happy to see only 16 dogs/puppies up for adoption at the Lost Dogs Home and 12 at my local RSPCA.
    We have a lovely Jack Russell X Staffy, Basenji X Pomeranian and a Staffy X Stumpy Tail.
    Sure they're cute, but where are their owners when they need them?
    At the RSPCA, we have a purebred Blue Heeler, a purebred Staffy, purebred Jack Russell, purebred Greyhound and a purebred American Bulldog. But still, they don't have a home.
    Plus all the other mixes, Lab X Staffy. Lovely, imagine that pair.
    My point is, someone who pays top dollar for the breeding of a puppy that Occy and Dorte are talking about, these dogs have a very low chance of being dumped considering how much they were bought for.
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