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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    Obviously I don't mean you are a Nazi and I apologize if that is what you thought I meant. It's just the whole pure breed thing smacks of the same thing, I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.

    Sorry, I don't lose my temper much but you really know how to press people buttons don't you Occy, that's why certain other posts went the way they did I feel.
    You suggested that the thoughts motives and actions of those who believe in pure breds over indiscrinimant breeding of any type were Nazi's - simple and easily comprehensible. I am not responisble for anyone's actions but my own - so don't blame me for what you said.

    Morgan told us to keep the forum friendly - simple really - some good debate happened today and then there was the rest - if only people could look at facts without losing their bikkies all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    Sigh - get up off your duff and go out and LOOK at shelters - then get back to me - those were just a couple of websites. I was referring to swfs and oodles in my posts. Did I not mention about checking those sites in a month or two - I must be going mad - I was sure I did say it...

    Armchair experts never cease to amaze me.

    I have been looking at the local shelters for the last 6 months or so as i do want to get a rescue dog in the near future. I still didn't see all these oodles that are being dumped, and as I said not many swfs either (which some of course are purebreed swfs but you obviously have a issue with any swf pure or otherwise) Lots of ACD x, Kelpie x, and SBT x. I will be looking in the next few months also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    Ok can I just clear something up once and for all because I want to be really clear on this.

    Are you saying that the only reason to breed dogs is to show them and the pets that get produced as 'failed' dogs are the only reason anybody should have a pet.
    No one ever said that

    The only reason - IMO - to breed a dog is to improve the breed - that may mean a working dog or a show dog

    Just IMO of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    You suggested that the thoughts motives and actions of those who believe in pure breds over indiscrinimant breeding of any type were Nazi's - simple and easily comprehensible. I am not responisble for anyone's actions but my own - so don't blame me for what you said.

    Morgan told us to keep the forum friendly - simple really - some good debate happened today and then there was the rest - if only people could look at facts without losing their bikkies all over the place.
    I said I was sorry, I was just explaining why I lost it. It won't happen again, I can assure you. I should have read the post back before I submitted it and i would have realised I shouldn't have said it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    No one ever said that

    The only reason - IMO - to breed a dog is to improve the breed - that may mean a working dog or a show dog

    Just IMO of course.
    Ok just to show them or work them. There is no value in just producing pets then. Honestly I just want to be clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    Yeh, I'm trying not to lose it too, with the Pure breed Nazis on here. I have avoided confrontation on here as much as possible but it's not DOL so please don't make it so.

    I only said head size as an example, I'm sure there are other more innocent reason the dogs don't make the grade show wise.

    And why would you breed from health a temperament tested none show quality dogs?

    AS HAPPY HEALTHY LOVING COMPANIONS
    I suggest you back off with your Nazi comments...to be quite frank!!! What a freaking nasty thing to say! I never said anything of the sort that could REMOTELY compare to what Hitler tried to do with the Jews! This is another proof of your total ignorance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    Ok can I just clear something up once and for all because I want to be really clear on this.

    Are you saying that the only reason to breed dogs is to show them and the pets that get produced as 'failed' dogs are the only reason anybody should have a pet.
    YES...my God...she's got it!!!!!!
    Last edited by Cleasanta; 12-23-2009 at 04:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    I suggest you back off with your Nazi comments...to be quite frank!!! What a freaking nasty thing to say! I never said anything of the sort that could REMOTELY compare to what Hitler tried to do with the Jews! This is another proof of your total ignorance!
    Did you not see I apologized for that, did you have to quote it again.

    Once again:

    I am sorry for any offense caused, I had a momentary lapse of reason, I allowed people to get to me and regret what I posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    YES...my God...she's got it!!!!!!
    If this was the case, yes there would probably be no dogs in the shelters but there wouldn't be many pets either surely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    Ok just to show them or work them. There is no value in just producing pets then. Honestly I just want to be clear.
    So you suggest that to improve a breed = showing?

    SHowing is just a place where a select number of a breed congregate - lots of bitches are never shown.

    It involves health tests, temperment assessments, etc

    Why wouldn't every person want a pet like that?

    In a litter there may be one or two breeding quality dogs - that is where the average person comes in

    Owning a dog is a privilege not a right and people really need to start acknowledging that.

    As a dog owner, you have a responsibility to your dog and to your breed. If your dog adds nothing to your breed - desex it.

    If your dog is a x bred - exactly what is it adding to?

    I loved my x breds but they added nothing to my breed and were desexed accordingly - same as my byb dogs.

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