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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingoofus View Post
    just one reason why cross bred dogs are just as good of dogs as purebreds.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    OF COURSE it is!!!!!

    But breeding from healthy, sound and correct looking stock is VERY important! Cross breeding 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation "mutts" makes it IMPOSSIBLE to backtrack ANY type of health and temperament problems........and you end up with loads of dogs/puppies in the pound/shelter with behavioural issues and health issues! THAT is what responsible ethical breeders spend a lot of their time and money on to eliminate and BYB/Puppy mills don't!
    Why is it any more impossible than pure breeds if you started with a pure breed of each type and followed through just like with the pure breeds now. Remember I was FOR health testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Of course you wouldn't...but can you back track health and temperament issues in her if you need to.....to determine whether she would have a genetic disorder or not...further down the track (touch wood she won't)?
    Well what's the point in back tracking health issues? if she has a problem, knowing there is a history of it in her lineage wont make her healthy again. I will cross that bridge when I get to it, but even if she does become unhealthy, I'll still love her and do what I can for her.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingoofus View Post
    Well thats why most dogs bred for working are kept in the rural towns. I have a kelpie/ border collie from a rural property, and she is the best dog I've ever had, sure she is energetic, barks alot, and chases birds etc, but she's not destructive, and she is happy, she only needs mental stimulation, and a walk. It's not hard to keep a working dog, if you love it enough to devote your time to it.
    yes because people who have jobs and a life outside dogs do not love their dogs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingoofus View Post
    just one reason why cross bred dogs are just as good of dogs as purebreds.



    I wouldn't trade her for the world.
    yea yea - lovely collie x - however - IMO - Sandy was superior in looks and intellect to any other dog I have come across. However, I didn't have a background for her - and to save Clea banging her head against the wall - a health test isnt for the bitch - it is for the potential puppies - genetics n all being what they are

    As individual dogs each one is as worthy as another - however - we as humans have a responsibility - and that responsibility means not breeding for our selfishness alone - and come on - all breeders breed to get something for themselves - whether it be satisfaction or something else

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    OK...let me backtrack a bit....I said....if you buy from a BYB or a cross bred dog...you are enabling that side of the pet industry...period and that is when all hell broke loose. If you breed cross bred dogs...then YES you are a BYB, because you sure as hell are not a registered breeder...breeding for temperament...soundness and health! If you ARE a registered breeder...breeding solely for...lets say...coat colour as in blue Staffies to obtain more money for a pup...for financial gain without taking into account any health or temperament issue...then you are a BYB too! If you breed from your Limited register dog (which was put on limited for a reason because IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR BREEDING)...then you are a BYB! If you mass-produce puppies...then you are a puppy mill regardless of having a breeders prefix or not.

    Cross bred dogs are the majority of dogs coming through shelters/pounds. If people stopped breeding X breeds...the influx of puppies/dogs in shelters would SIGNIFICANTLY reduce! It would also SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the amount of dogs/puppies being PTS every single year!

    OF COURSE it is easier to backtrack health and temperament issues in papered dogs! Instead of dealing with...lets say...10 different breeds with their own breeding lines, spread all over the country side with NO documentation...you are dealing with ONE breed...each dog/bitch having their own breeding line and it can be backtracked AND documented should anything arise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    yes because people who have jobs and a life outside dogs do not love their dogs...
    Well if you can't devote the time to make a dog happy, why would you get a dog?
    Ask a Border Collie to jump and it'd say, "how high?", ask a Kelpie and he'll ask, "why?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    However, I didn't have a background for her - and to save Clea banging her head against the wall - a health test isnt for the bitch - it is for the potential puppies - genetics n all being what they are
    PHEW...you just save me from a massive headache

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    I count terriers as swf too Tkay - not just malt/shih etc - and there were a few of them too.

    many of the something x dogs would be oodles.

    Wait til a month or two after christmas - pounds will be full of christmas presents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingoofus View Post
    Well if you can't devote the time to make a dog happy, why would you get a dog?
    Who said I can't? But I do have a life outside dogs - I have real human friends - and I have a real full time job that requires extra hours besides. My dog still gets walked when the weather is reasonable, he goes to training twice a week when it is on, we do agility otherwise when it is on - I do a heap of stuff with my dog - but I am reasonable about it. Good to know you have so much spare time - if only we all did AND could still make a living.

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