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    Default Wanting a New Pup, However...

    Hi guys...(1st post....hooray!)

    Ok, i have some decisions to make and any advice you guys might have would be greatly appreciated...

    Heres my situation...

    I currently own a 19month old male AmStaff and have been searching for a new pup to add to my pack...preferably male as i much prefer the stocky muscular look...

    I am keen on having a big dog/small dog combo and have my eyes set on either a French Bulldog or a English Staffy (pref blue).

    Due to my current location being Perth WA, pups of the above breeds are rare as hens teeth, and i have considered the eastern states option but im detered by the issues that go with it...

    I finally decided to check out some local staffy breeders and came across the most magnificant pups with an equally impressive pair of parents...So i left my deposit, happy as larry...ready to collect my new pup tomorrow...

    However...today i recieved a call from the actual owner/breeder of the pups and she says that under no circumstance will she be allowing any of her male pups to come home with me to my male amstaff...In her opinion, world war III will only be a matter of time...

    But she is the breeder, and she knows her breed...so i respect her wishes and now im back at square 1.

    So...what i would like to know is...:

    a) Will two male staffys get along or is it disaster waiting to happen? I was under the impression that, given a reasonable age difference, all should be fine... Along with the correct guidance and training...

    b) The reason i chose to go with the staffy over the frenchy was issues such as: will he be able to keep up with my amstaff? will all the health issues that seem to plague the breed be a major concern? In summer will he be able to be outside with the amstaff or will i have to keep him indoors or sectioned off in a cooler place away from the playful larger dog?

    c) Should i abandon the idea of having two male dogs altogether? I am quite sure my amstaff will be fine, and he has proven that to me time and time again...He is quite mellow and shows zero aggression towards dogs that he knows...Even my mothers pescky Jack Russel who often mounts him and pants away asserting his dominance while my dog just sits there yawning...LoL...
    With dogs that he sees outside of our gates however, he goes a bit crazy...mostly due to my lack of socialization as a pup...

    By the look of things, i will be having to go interstate to find my new addition as waiting lists here in WA are rediculous...

    Until then, i am gathering and reading as much info as i can as i dont want to make the wrong decision...

    Thanks for your time and i look forward to hearing everyones thoughts...

    Cheers again!
    e. ")
    Perth WA

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    Hi and to the forum.

    Sorry, I don't have any advise for you as I have never owned those breeds before. I'm sure there are others here that will be happy to help

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    Hello and Amstaff tank,
    I also prefer the stocky muscular look But you can get females with that look too. If this was me i would go for a female. But in saying that having both male dog desexed would help. Yep a staffy would be able to keep up.

    When you say this what do you mean? health issues that seem to plague the breed be a major concern?
    I mean this nicely it's not english staffy, They are staffordshire bull terriers. From what i know about the blue's is they are breed for colour and are not rare I hope that info helps

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    I've never had huge issues with two males together - two females is a different story

    However, if you own breeds predisposed to showing aggression perhaps you need to consider a female instead of a male

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    Hi &

    Keeping two male bull breeds is a Big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, the SBT breeder was correct as will most reputable registered SBT breeders tell you the same thing, its ww3 disaster just waiting to happen even if either or 1 is de-sexed. They will fight over dominance issues etc & i'm speaking from being familiar with the SBT breed & experience, i did make the mistake of puppy sitting a male 16 month old SBT pup for a few weeks, omg both the pup & my de-sexed male SBT were at it 24/7 fighting


    I found this listing on another forum with listings in WA that may interest you..

    Staffordshire Bull Terrier Puppies for Sale from Staffordshire Bull Terrier breeders, Australia.
    Last edited by Aussie Floyd; 09-04-2009 at 10:17 AM.

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    Hey guys thanks for all the feedback and advice! Helps me a bunch...

    "When you say this what do you mean? health issues that seem to plague the breed be a major concern?"
    I am referring to the French Bulldog...and all the health issues they seem to carry. ie pallette problems, over heating problems, bone disorders, backl problems, breathing problems etc etc...

    Aussie Floyd, when u say no two male bully breeds together, that obviously includes the French "Bull"dog huh? damn... There goes that idea...

    Well...The female Frenchys still look stocky i guess...

    And you are right, you can get stocky females...but as a pup how do u tell? LoL

    Many thanks...
    e.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSTAFF_TANK View Post
    Hey guys thanks for all the feedback and advice! Helps me a bunch...


    Aussie Floyd, when u say no two male bully breeds together, that obviously includes the French "Bull"dog huh? damn... There goes that idea...


    Many thanks...
    e.")

    I'm sorry i should have worded my reply better...I cant answer anything about French Bull dogs as i'm not in the know, i was referring to other bull breeds, SBT, EBT, AMSTAFF

    What about AMSTAFF or SBT females, they could make beaut companions for your male AMSTAFF, have you considered a rescue bull breed or do you want a KC registered puppy ???

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    Well, i was prefering to go with a smaller breed, rather than having two big energetic dogs, maybe have one on a slightly lower level...

    So im steering away from another Amstaff... possibly a female SBT, if i can get myself around my phsycological preference of a male...lol

    I have considered a rescue option however, with my current dog, i did not really get the chance to raise him as a pup...so im looking for that whole experience with the next one...

    Ok, so maybe the french bulldog is still an option...any frenchy experts around?

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    Hiya

    Thought id chuck a word in since we are currently owning our 2nd male SBT

    Our first grew up with a male brichon, both entire and they got on just fine. Max our brichon knew the ropes and knew our SBT Bernie was the boss, never any issues (Although i co-owned them i guess you could say from around 9-10yrs old and onwards, Bernie lived to be 18 and Max 20) But as pups before i knew them i was told they have always been the same, just like brothers, Max kowning he was the little brother so to speak

    We now have a entire male SBT, Who shares a backyard with a mini maltese/shitzu as we live in a semi, (Thus backyard has been split up for the dogs). The 'boys' are now coming up to 14 and 16 months old, Leo our SBT being the older. Things are finally starting to get a bit more relaxed between the 2. I notice 'common territory' in our backyard were they seam to share the dominating role, other parts of the yard Leo seems to know that its Harpo's area and doesnt try to dominate him there and visa versa. They seem to have developed an understanding if you will.

    However i would not be as confident that 2 bull breeds would come to this, as AF pointed our, any breeder will tell you not a good idea. However, have seen people on forums who do have 2 male 'bulls' together and with proper managment and training, it can work. Not for the novice owner though.

    We (Well I! trying to convince OH! LOL) want another dog, another SBT, but I simply wouldnt get another male. Even though Leo is very sociable, plays at the park everday with other dogs (Male, female, desexed and entire all fine) But i still think male-female combo would better for us and Leo. He seems to let female dogs take a stand over him alot quicker than he will submit to another male dog

    Dont really know if i have helped...... Sorry! LOL

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    Not at all Leo...your thoughts and experiences are exactly what i am after...

    "However i would not be as confident that 2 bull breeds would come to this, as AF pointed our, any breeder will tell you not a good idea. However, have seen people on forums who do have 2 male 'bulls' together and with proper managment and training, it can work. Not for the novice owner though."

    Yes this is the general feel i think...

    The fact that Mr Cesar Milan can house a huge pack of rottis, german shepards, pit bulls etc is proof that with proper managment and training, anything is possible...

    Now if i could only have his skills...LoL...

    Cheers,
    e. ")

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