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    Hi all,

    new to forums and hoping to get some advice

    I've got an 11month old American x Eng Staff who is toilet trained to a certain extent. He will got to door when needs to go out to pee etc. We take him out right before bed and as soon as we wake up in the morning, which is always before he wakes up... he loves to sleep in . Anyway, problem is that he still cant always go a full night without having to pee. I'd say 30% of the time it's fine, but other 70% there is a pee waiting for us on newspaper we leave for him overnight. It's never more than 8hours sleep time for him.

    Is it just something that he will grow out of, being able to hold on when he gets older? Should we not worry so much and just wait until he can hold his bladder?


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    Hello and Tobinator
    I don't know if it is something that he will grow out of?. I have a 8 month old Staffordshire bull terrier that dose the same thing some nights sleeps through and some nights wakes me up to go out side to the toilet. With NJ it depends on how much he drinks that day.

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    hmmm! at least it's not just Toby then!

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    G'day & Tobinator

    I've got an idea that may help with your dogs pee'n habits, i was given this advice yrs ago when my SBT was a puppy & it worked a treat, fully house trained dog..... Stafford's are not a dumb arse breed, they are quiet intelligent & easily trainable, their eager to please us humans- in fact they thrive on our attention & pleasing us.

    After every drink or meal take him in the garden & leave him there no matter how long it is until he goes toilet, once he has gone toilet praise him with treats, cuddles, play etc, he will eventually realize that he is getting attention for doing he's toilets in outside. Also take him out just before you go to bed & wait until he toilets outside, then take him inside to bed etc & give him a tuck in bed pat, cuddle etc, reward him with affection & do the same thing as soon as you get out of bed in the morning. Do not leave paper, or any type of toilet material litter out for him to use, you only want him to toilet outside & not associate inside as ok to toilet etc.

    When he does toilet in house DO NOT what so ever show any type of attention to him,no speaking to him, looking at him, no treats etc, no playing, NO ATTENTION what so ever, don't make a big deal out of he's mistake, just go about cleaning up he's mess as if he weren't there, hopefully he will realize that going toilet in the house is a big no no & that he wont get your attention or treats etc for it either.

    Hope this info / advice is helpful for you

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    Hey AF!

    thanks for the advice! that's pretty much what we do, except we do leave paper for him overnight. He does know to go outside, just not overnight. We're lucky to have a tiled area where he sleeps so if we don't leave paper out it's easy to clean up any mess.

    How old was your staffy before they were holding on during the night?

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    My 1st SBT "Zeppelin" was about 14 months old when completely fully house trained, i adopted Zep when he was 1 yr old, he was toilet trained etc, but on occasions he would pee in the house, i tried the method that i advised you about & training him to toilet outside didn't take much effort at all.

    Floyd is 9yrs old & i adopted when he was 7yrs old & he was fully house & obedient trained, i've not had to train Floyd in any matter at all

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    14mths for Zeppelin, ah ok... maybe i just have to be patient a bit longer. I think Toby is getting better. used to pee twice over night, now once if he does and it's usually quite a small one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post

    Do not leave paper, or any type of toilet material litter out for him to use, you only want him to toilet outside & not associate inside as ok to toilet etc.

    When he does toilet in house DO NOT what so ever show any type of attention to him,no speaking to him, looking at him, no treats etc, no playing, NO ATTENTION what so ever, don't make a big deal out of he's mistake, just go about cleaning up he's mess as if he weren't there, hopefully he will realize that going toilet in the house is a big no no & that he wont get your attention or treats etc for it either.

    Hope this info / advice is helpful for you
    Hi and

    I agree with Aussie Floyd about not leaving newspaper down for him as he thinks this is OK for him to pee on...rather than learning to wait untill he's outside

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobinator View Post
    14mths for Zeppelin, ah ok... maybe i just have to be patient a bit longer. I think Toby is getting better. used to pee twice over night, now once if he does and it's usually quite a small one...

    I dont know anything about Zeppelins previous training etc as he was 1 yr old when i adopted him, but with in 2 months i had him toilet trained etc.. each dog & situation is different so its hard to say how long it will take to train each individual dog.

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    I would agree with most of what Aussie Floyd wrote. I'm not sure I'd remove the paper for peeing on though - I'd rather a dog caught short uses a designated spot than messes on the floor.

    I've got a few suggestions.
    1. work the toileting paper one inch per day towards a floor drain. My puppy peed in the bathroom overflow drain - exactly once - but it would be cool if she would do that any time she was stuck inside and not able to get out or hold on. Some dogs and cats can be trained to use a drain or toilet.

    2. take away any sources of drinking water - at least an hour before bedtime but up to four hours before bed time (depending on the weather). Don't let the dog drink (or eat) a lot immediately before bed. Even I can't hold on all night if I do that.

    3. I used to sleep with puppy attached to a lead that went between me and my bed and was attached on the other side, so if she needed to get out during the night - she woke me up. Now I wake up the minute her paws/claws hit the floor boards - tappity tappity. She's pretty good about holding on to pee all night, but if she ate something bad for her in the previous 24 hours - I'd much rather get up and have her do dodgy number 2's outside.

    4. If the ground outside is cold and/or wet, carry or lead the dog out and put it in the middle of the wet lawn / cold ground. And don't let it back in till it "performs". My family used to have to do that with an Aussie terrier who would much rather use the warm dry carpet inside than get her feet cold and wet, but once her feet were already cold and wet, might as well go there then.

    Hope that helps.

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