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    Default Help distinguishing smooth vs rough haired Border Collies

    Hi, our border collie recently gave birth to 10 pups and would like to ask the forum how to distinguish the difference between smooth and rough haired BC pups. The pups are 2 weeks old. Is there a certain age where it becomes more apparent or can it be determined before that? I have shared some flickr pictures of one of the BC pups.

    I appreciate your time and effort. Thank you

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/134301.../shares/27t98f

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    No idea. I know that some BC are very long haired and some have very short coats, but I thought it was more a working dog preference for short coats that don't collect dirt and burrs.

    You might find the answer easier if you ask on a forum specifically for border collies, a few do exist.

    Also what did you have in the parent dogs?

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    No idea apart from what are the parents? Im guessing its a mix or you probably wouldnt be asking.

    I can tell you, those pups look identical to every BC pup ive seen, and ive only been involved in longer haired.

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    the hair behind the ears! its longer, fluffyer at 12 weeks in my photos ive checked.

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    It does depend on what type of coat each of the parents have and what the coat type is of the grandparents.

    Genetics is an interesting read – so a few links for you:

    Rough vs. Smooth Border Collie

    Border Collies - Genetics Interaction between genes

    BORDER COLLIE COLOURS AND BORDER COLLIE COAT COLORS. BORDER COLLIE COLOURS, BORDER COLLIE COLORS, BORDER COLLIE GENETICS, THE GENETICS OF COLOUR COLOR IN THE BORDER COLLIE, INHERITANCE OF COLOUR COLOR IN THE BORDER COLLIE, BLACK AND WHITE BORDER COLL

    Do you have a BC dog breeding mentor ? What about asking the breeder of your parent dogs ? Experienced breeders of BCs would be able to help you here.

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    Depends on the parents genetics. My working BC is from a smooth/ rough cross, some of his litter were super short coated, he is short coated but a little bit of length in his tail and one has a rough coat, they all looked much the same as pups. Even my very heavy coated showbred had quite a smooth coat as a pup and really only started to grow some length around 4 months although because of her breeding we knew what she would be..

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    a further question re BC's.
    is there a name for the ones that: are increadibly silky to touch? longer haired. Amazing coat that can go from covered in muck, to black white n silky when dry? This is the quality i remember from our collies that were all long haired. Rare to see short coated BC in uk.

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    Probably just rough coated working breds. Their coats seem to be much easier care than the showbreds that seem to be bred for and develop very massive coats that are, speaking from experience, frankly a pain to manage in the country.

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    rough coated. Such an easy care coat for sure!
    They were only ever working dogs, home bred between 4 and 6yrs once usually, for next generation. And at the time (80's), BC's were not pedigree status in UK like they are today, so could only compete in sheep dog trials. Perfect scenario for maintaining the breed IMO.

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