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    Default Buying a puppy, what is the price?

    Hi all, I'm planning on buying a puppy soon, and have had my eyes on the Japanese spitz breed. I'm just wondering what is the usual price for a js puppy? I've been to pet shops and they have them at 2.5k (and yes I shouldn't buy from a pet shop anyways). I've also emailed registered breeders and they have quoted 2k. What about for private breeders? What should be the price if I buy from private breeders?
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    A JS for 2.5k ? It must be the best of the best on full Register with Champion bloodlines for that price.
    I have heard from people in Perth about Pet Shops selling JS for 2.5k without Pedigree Certificates ( unregistered ).
    Think I need to move to Perth .

    I have 5 pups ( will be on limited register ) going out to new homes mid July. The price I sell for is well under 2k.
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    'NewBee' - Please DO NOT WASTE your money buying a JS from a pet shop !

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    mitte' said - if you buy from a registered breeder - such as he is - you are guaranteed a better bred JS for a lot less money.

    The pups are bred under better conditions than at a 'puppy farm'. The pup would have been wormed, vaccinated, micro-chipped, vet checked, fed on very healthy food and kept with mum and siblings until it is 8 weeks old or even older.

    This link is a good place to start your search on JS breeders:

    Japanese Spitz Breeders, Australia

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    Found this link for you also:

    Japanese Spitz FAQ | japanesespitzhq.com

    It states that the average price range is between $1,200 and $1,800 from a pedigreed and registered breeder.

    Please do your homework. Getting a pup flown to you is very easy - so don't hesitate to contact interstate breeders.

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    Please buy your puppy from a Registered Breeder who is a member of that dog club and don't forget pounds...shelters and rescue.

    Never ever buy from a pet shop...puppy mill or backyard breeder...here's why...

    How well do you know your best friend?

    STOP PUPPY MILLS | Animals Australia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVyFSTYY7zg
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    Sorry made a typo... It should be "shouldn't buy from a pet shop anyways" I've read about puppy farms already

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    Hi, what about from private breeders who claim the parents are both from registered breeders? I have contacted a private breeder and have visited their home - seems like a good family, and the puppies are well socialised as they have both the parents of the puppies, as well as couple of children to play with them.

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    Hi NewBee

    You can edit your post - there is a line under each post and bottom right is a pencil with "edit post" next to it for the posts you made - or all the posts for moderators.

    An ANKC registered breeder has a breeder prefix. You can phone up your local ANKC branch eg in WA this is it..
    DogsWest - Home

    But there's one in each state. Which you can find from the ANKC page for "member bodies".
    Member Bodies

    You can see a lot of stuff on menus across the top of the ANKC page about ethics and health of puppies which includes doing health tests (eg DNA tests) to make sure that they're not pairing dogs that will make unhealthy puppies.

    There are dodgy breeders in ANKC but your best chance of finding a good breeder who is more concerned about the health of their puppies and the quality of their new puppy homes and will help you with any puppy raising questions you have than about making a buck.

    Right now Japanese Spitz are the perfect "make a buck" puppy and a lot of the breeders that don't have an ANKC prefix will happily lie to you about their puppies. They may not even be Japanese spitz but because you bought from someone not registered with ANKC you've got no come back.

    One of the requirements of a breeder who is a member of the ANKC with a breeder prefix - is that they must register all their puppies. They've got two choices "Main register" as the puppy is suitable quality for breeding and showing, and "limited register" which means the puppy isn't quite right but they'd rather find it a good pet (not breeder) home than put it to sleep.

    But some unethical people will take the "limited register" puppies and breed these - despite them not being suitable for breeding - usually they have some health or structural problem that the breeder doesn't want to pass on. One of my friends has gotten their dogs from a breeder who is not a member of ANKC and is just breeding cute puppies, and my friend doesn't care that this is causing them high vet bills now because the adult dog has a damaged spine, can't walk properly, has trouble going to the toilet, and problems with its mouth and cant eat properly. It's also really badly behaved around big dogs it doesn't know well.

    So do you really want a puppy from someone like that? Someone who has no problems lying to you, and selling you a less than perfect puppy for an outrageous price? And if you have any problems - will tell you you're on your own.

    But having said that - a lot of private breeders are ANKC breeders who do keep and breed their dogs in their own homes -which is great for getting a well socialised puppy who is used to people and other dogs. And a breeder like this should be fine with showing you the health documentation, and their breeder prefix so you can check that they are a current member and how many puppies they've registered.

    But the best way to find a great puppy at a value price - is to go to a breed show or a breed club meet up and meet breeders and their dogs. You don't have to pick the champion breeder - there might be good reasons to pick one that never wins, but they all follow the code of ethics. Your local version of Dogs West should be able to help you find the nearest breed club or show where the Japanese spitz will be.

    So bottom line - why do you want to avoid going to an ANKC registered breeder and buy from some scumbag who only cares about your money and not the dogs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewBee View Post
    Hi, what about from private breeders who claim the parents are both from registered breeders? I have contacted a private breeder and have visited their home - seems like a good family, and the puppies are well socialised as they have both the parents of the puppies, as well as couple of children to play with them.
    Please take notice of the advice given to you by people on this forum as it will save you a lot of money and heartache latter on.

    Private breeder = backyard breeder = lowlife scumbag who's only after your money...don't be fooled.
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    'NewBee' - I am really sorry if you think everyone here is coming down on you like a ton of hot bricks with all this.

    There are a lot of members of this forum – including me - who have bought pups in the past that have broken our hearts - health wise.

    mitte’ would be the one to ask on here or PM about health problems with this breed – but – this is what I found.

    Japanese Spitz Health | japanesespitzhq.com

    I really have to agree with ‘Dogman’ here about ‘private breeders’. They really are nothing but BYB ers! They hang on the shirt tails of registered breeders and their reputations– they do absolutely no health testing at all – they just breed their dogs – and get the money !

    As I said before – if a JS is really what you want – please do your homework and speak to ‘mitte’ for some really sound advice.

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