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    Default Having a wee problem..

    So ok naturally I love my little baby and I actually think she's doing very well with toilet training. She pretty good at holding in Number 2 until we can get her outside morning and night, but number 1 is presenting a wee problem. It's partly my fault I need to remember to start restricting how much water access she has during the day when we are out. She stays in her own room and has an indoor tray which she is very good at using if I am in the room but completely ignores if i'm not there. The floor is a floating wooden floor which is currently getting moped on a nightly basis and fresh newspaper is being put down but I wonder if I'm using the right stuff to clean it with? At the moment I'm using an eco friendly floor wash so no ammonia smell but she just keeps going back to her favourite spots.

    I'm going to get so proper dog odour removal stuff on saturday but what else should I do to encourage her to use the tray if she can't hold on? Or is there something else I should be doing to make her favourite spots less attractive? At the moment it doesn't even matter if her toys are there she'll just pee on top of them

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    I would never restrict a dog's access to water, especially not a puppy. They drink how much they need to drink.

    I've never bothered trying to train a dog to use pee pads. Why can't she have access to the yard?

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    Sounds like you have a clean pup, who wont poop in her own space. So very encouraging.
    You may want to consider, reviewing any rules you thought would be good for pup before you got it home. e.g. why is the pup not allowed in garden to pee? It really doesnt matter, you can train a dog to pee on anything if you wish. Its just im lazy, so go for the exact behaviour i want, immediately, so i dont then have to train a new behaviour, like, now its not ok to pee on newspaper, now you have to go outside.

    to train your dog to pee on whatever you wish, wherever you've chosen and for you, this is in doors, on your wooden floors, onto paper.
    so you watch pup, when does it pee. After play, after waking, after eating/drinking is when mine go.
    Then, before that times comes around, so say, immediately the bowl is empty, you take the dog on a adventure, to the spot you want that pee. And keep pup in area, do not interact, other than a command sound "pee" or whatever you want it to be and wait, and wait, and wait eventually, the dog will pee. As pee's say the word, pee good dog. You then behave like a demented banshee, and praise when its finished, and get excited, let that pup know its the best pup in the world.
    Then bring pup back in.

    Spend the weekend, outside with the pup. See where it wants to go. Is that ok with you? choose that spot.
    Only allow pup access into house, when its tied to you, so you dont lose concentration, and it pee's again.
    If pup does pee, neutrally mannered, clean it up, then change the subject

    Rinse and repeat till done. The more observant and consistant you are, the quicker it takes. I usually more or less live outside, till pups are housetrained. Just coming in to sleep. But i know im nuts.
    and too lazy to clean up after a incontinent anything

    Watch for tell tale signs, she's about to: sniffing, circling, going anywhere out of sight. Scoop teh pup up, or call excitedly and run to the spot. And wait, and wait, and wait, then praise when it pees.

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    I think the distinction between inside and outside is much easier for a dog to understand than the difference between on pee pad or somewhere near it. And outside they get to choose a spot, even if you have them on lead, which is probably somewhat self rewarding. The ritual of sniffing around to choose that special spot on dirt or grass that is worthy of their wee. It probably has something to do with the instinct to mark?

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    She stays in her own room and has an indoor tray which she is very good at using if I am in the room but completely ignores if i'm not there.
    I think maybe you need to restrict how much space she has when you're out. Which limits where she might pee. I wouldn't restrict access to water especially if you've fed dry food in the morning.

    Try cleaning up with vinegar and maybe a bit of bicarb soda... ie clean up the pee, then get a new cloth, sprinkle a tiny bit of bicarb then spray over some vinegar and wipe clean. You may need a UV light to make sure you got all the crevices and splashes...

    It's tough she gets it right when you're home and not when you're out. Sneaky hound. Maybe up the value for getting it right when you're home ie give her a treat if she pees on the indoor pee spot - so that doing that has increased value for her. Give her two treats for going outside on the right spot... watch out for any nose down sniffing and get her on the right spot... then be boring... repeat magic potty word...

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    Thanks for the suggestions guys - Beloz she does have access to the yard but only when we are home. Our 'yard' is 9 acres of bush so she only goes out when supervised on the leash. We don't have a smaller area fenced off. When we are home she gets taken out regularly and I don't mind where she goes, but there is no way she's being let out when we are not home. The point of the tray inside is so she has somewhere to go when we aren't there to let her out. She uses it very well when I'm there and it is obvious she's not going to make it to the door, which is usually when she's been playing and then suddenly realises she has to go straight away or during the night when she's just woken up and I can put her on the floor and she goes straight to the tray.

    I don't think its an old wives tale about peeing on their spot because even when taken outside she sniffs around and goes to her favourite spots. I'm hoping that some extra praise when she does use the tray and a good cleaner to remove the pee smell will help.

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    Could you put a play pen at the backdoor? I know lots of people use them inside or outside for tiny pups. As I said, I think it is definitely possible but quite a bit more ambitious to teach on/off pee pad as opposed to in/outside to such a little one.

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    I'm sorry i obviously failed to communicate my intense insane paranoia about letting my dog outside without me

    I decided before i even bought her that she wouldn't be left outside alone due to heat/cold issues, in case she get out of pen/fence, the neighbours' dog constantly getting out and roaming on our property, people wanting to steal her because apart from being gorgeous she's very valuable, being eaten by kangaroos, being abducted by aliens... anything else bad that I may not have thought of yet. I'd rather clean up pee for the rest of my life than have something happen to her.

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    being abducted by aliens
    let out by the gas meter man, attacking the gas meter man or the burglar or the neighbour across the road that can't stand dogs barking...

    Yup - I know exactly where you're coming from...

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    ejburke, i wont let my dogs out unsupervised, as i live in similar situation to what you describe. Aliens everywhere. AND ive just been told of a mate, who's dog was attempted to be drowned by a roo in their damn.

    So, with all these tricks and tips. For anyone reading this thread, i have a reassuring question.

    Who's dog is not house trained now?

    nobodies i bet. They get it eventually

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