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    Default How long did you crate train for?

    Hi All,

    I was wondering how long you guys crate trained your puppies for?

    Zulu is normally has free roam of the entire house when we get home from work, around 5pm and I put him in his crate when we go to bed, around 10:30pm.

    During this time, we don’t have him in his crate, but rather take him outside for toilet breaks, around 6pm, 8pm, and just before bedtime (around 10:30pm). Every time he goes to the toilet, we reward and praise him.

    We have been doing this routine for about a week, and in this time, he only made one wee inside. When it did happen, I told him in stern voice, “NO Zulu!”, and I then put him outside for 15mins. I then got the puppy dog eyes through the glass sliding door window. He has not made a wee inside every since

    Now that he has this routine is it still necessary to crate him every hour?

    Cheers,
    Robbie

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    I've never used a crate. I'm lucky that my dog was naturally clean from the day I got her, it's only now, in her senior years that bladder control is a bit of an issue. One thing I did do was to teach her to pee on command......when I would take her out to do her business as soon as she did it I would say "wee weeks", she soon picked it up.

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    When it did happen, I told him in stern voice, “NO Zulu!”, and I then put him outside for 15mins.
    NO! ROBBIE!

    Now I've paired your name with a reprimand (mild punishment). Is that what you do when a child wets their pants? I hope not.

    Really what you want to do is pair the dog's name with reward for coming here... If you pair it with reprimands - the dog is going to get confused. Hence I have a few nick names for my dog like "Evil Hound" so I don't contaminate her actual name as much with angry / upset words.

    So if the dog pees inside - it's still your fault - put a big red x on the nearest brick wall and "bang head here". You weren't watching enough.

    I would think you'd need to do the regular outside supervised potty stops for at least 2 weeks to a month after first getting the puppy for the puppy to start asking to get out. You can also make a door routine - if the puppy can't let herself out (mine), ie teach to sit and bark or ring a bell... and then open the door for the puppy to go out.

    I know if my dog is yiffing at the back door - it's an emergency and she's busting. Sometimes she will come and poke me or bark at me to get her to follow her to the back door and she will then repeat the sit and yiffing...

    Crate training - it's up to you how much you do it. If your puppy is still having accidents - and I think my dog had a couple up to about 6 months and a couple more at other people's houses (she wasn't all clear about where the right place was to go in these places) - you still need to crate when you can't supervise.

    My dog training guru recommends about 30 minutes a day - when you're home - to keep the dog comfortable with appropriate behaviour in the crate ie not barking their heads off to be let out while you're home. Took my dog a while to figure this out - that once she'd grown up that she still might need to spend quiet time in a crate when I was home. She was fine with it when I was out tho I didn't crate her after about 18 months old when I was out, she gets to roam the house.

    I still supervise potty time when it's cold and raining and last thing at night - because she would rather not go out then, and I don't want to get up in the middle of the night because she's busting.

    She also gets supervised potty time on lead at dog training and competitions (agility) and lots of crate time then. And at hockey games. The crate protects her from stray balls and children and prevents her from joining in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    NO! ROBBIE!


    if the dog pees inside - it's still your fault - put a big red x on the nearest brick wall and "bang head here". You weren't watching enough.
    from stray balls and children and prevents her from joining in.
    pure gold hyacynth. and the crux of many a 9 month old pup still pissing inside the home.

    I use crate training. I trained one dog, who trained the other 2 for me. The crate is singular, my dogs are a trio. They vie over the chosen palace if you will.
    Its seen a wonderful place where bones are given, food is given, the small brats are not allowed, its haven for my dogs.

    And because i crate trained, i can isolate any of them when unwell, without any fuss at having to be in crate. I can pop them into a crate on a back of the ute, and drive them places, no fuss. I can take my collapsable crate anywhere and everywhere i camp, to stop hunting at night. Crate training is still going here, and my dogs are mature now. I bought the biggest crate you can, thinking id at least fit 2 dogs in. They grew too big for sharesies though.

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    My smallest crate fits a bull terrier and a cattle dog at the same time... but they're very good friends.

    My big crate fits me and both dogs... and two fans - it's wonderful for hot summer days.

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    I have bitten the bullet and have a crate coming, the only reason I want it is in case either of the others (not Jodi who was happy on a lead around a coffee table next to me during 6 weeks post op for a CL, the others would drag the table around to get away) need to be confined for any medical reason. When it arrives it will be a fixture in the lounge room, all three will realise it is the place of good things. Initially, if one even ventures in on their own as well as when I do training, there will be the word crate to associate with it. They are good with words. The only mistake I have made is the word BONES..they run to the kitchen and look up to where I have them defrosted and are very excited. When discussing the TV show Bones, and I mention the title, I now have learned to spell the ruddy word instead of saying it.

    There isn't really an everyday word we use that sounds like CRATE

    Edit, my mind is screwy, it was thought to be a crutiate but was a luxating Patella due to trauma. Entirely my fault as she was out the front, not on a lead, went under the fence as ruddy cows were out there and got it caught.
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    I tend to refer to b-o-n-e as "calcium supplement". For some reason it's not just the dog that doesn't understand what I'm saying.

    She doesn't get them very often. But if you ever need your yard cleared of all calcium supplements - she's your dog.

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    Thank you for spelling it as mine are in here with me, lol.
    Crate is at the P Office..that was fast compared to a month for a DVD I ordered that was in stock on another site.
    We will start tomorrow night with treats in there to entice them in with the word crate. It will be soft and comfy too as these tough ***cough*** working dogs ***cough*** love their luxury when they get it inside.
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    I am going to retrain to calcium supplement.

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    Sean, dear. If you are thinking of coming in here and shouting that former word in big letters I have two words for you...KITCHEN TABLE.

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