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    Hi All,

    My girlfriend and I picked up Macey, a 2 month year old Kelpie x Cattledog (unconfirmed) last Sunday - Today was the first day we both were at work and it will be a regular occurrence where we are both not here. We are currently living with my girlfriends parents in an attached granny flat, eagerly awaiting the completion of our house build. Today, Macey was quite good, quiet and amusing herself until about 1pm and then the howling apparently started, to which she was put outside for a play with Molly, the bigger dog of the house for a play (and to try and tire her out), she settled until about 3 after this where she apparently began howling too loud to ignore.

    So, my question is.. Does anybody have any suggestions for helping Macey deal with 'puppy loneliness' whilst we are at work, without there being too much input from other people here in the house.

    Cheers,
    Dave

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    that's so sad.

    you've only had this dog for a few days. must be hard for her. Is she 2 months old or a year old?

    2 months is very young and they take a while to get used to being on their own.

    It's really important not to reward howling with attention like yelling "SHADDUP", or putting out to play with another dog - big win for howling...

    If it was my dog - she'd be in a crate in the flat with a cover. The cover would be over some cardboard or something that held the cover out of reach of the sides of the crate but still covered everything up.

    I'd do my best to make sure the dog had plenty of practice at good things come to those in crates... ie dinner in crate, treats in crate, games and fun start in crates, get attention being quiet in crate... etc. there's a dvd called "Crate games".

    I would also get up early enough to give the dog a bit of a walk (5 minutes per month of age - so not long if puppy is 2 months but quite a bit longer if 1 or 2 years old), and some trick training. Trick training wears a smart dog's mind out - and then they sleep better for longer.

    If you do have someone who can give puppy a break from the crate several times a day - that would be fantastic but otherwise she probably needs to suck it up till you get home.

    It's really important that the crate is a safe happy place and not a punishing prison. It's all in the training. If she is in the crate in the flat - you might want to leave a talk back radio where she can hear it. Or if you can rig a computer up with Skype and check in occasionally - that would be a major bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    that's so sad.

    you've only had this dog for a few days. must be hard for her. Is she 2 months old or a year old?

    2 months is very young and they take a while to get used to being on their own.

    It's really important not to reward howling with attention like yelling "SHADDUP", or putting out to play with another dog - big win for howling...

    If it was my dog - she'd be in a crate in the flat with a cover. The cover would be over some cardboard or something that held the cover out of reach of the sides of the crate but still covered everything up.

    I'd do my best to make sure the dog had plenty of practice at good things come to those in crates... ie dinner in crate, treats in crate, games and fun start in crates, get attention being quiet in crate... etc. there's a dvd called "Crate games".

    I would also get up early enough to give the dog a bit of a walk (5 minutes per month of age - so not long if puppy is 2 months but quite a bit longer if 1 or 2 years old), and some trick training. Trick training wears a smart dog's mind out - and then they sleep better for longer.

    If you do have someone who can give puppy a break from the crate several times a day - that would be fantastic but otherwise she probably needs to suck it up till you get home.

    It's really important that the crate is a safe happy place and not a punishing prison. It's all in the training. If she is in the crate in the flat - you might want to leave a talk back radio where she can hear it. Or if you can rig a computer up with Skype and check in occasionally - that would be a major bonus.
    Hi Hyacinth,

    She is 2 months old (sorry for the mistype there)
    I read up about not rewarding howling or 'coming to her aid' in that time. I guess it's a matter of teaching her that howling won't get her what she wants, right?
    I've heard of this 'crate' business around the place. I just can't imagine leaving her in a small 2x2 caged box for 9 hours. I think that's more a mind thing though. Is it really ok to do that?
    She is due for one more vaccination before we can walk her, however one of us is always up at 5am to take her outside into the yard for a a run. It'll be walkies at that time once she has had her last vaccination though.

    I appreciate your response mate, we are very new to this. Have been around dogs and puppies, but never actually raised one.

    Cheers,
    Dave

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    I wrote a great long answer and then accidentally closed the browser.. oops.

    This is what you're trying to achieve.
    Crate Training : The Humane Society of the United States

    Crate games (or search youtube for "Crate games")
    Susan Garrett's Crate Games

    Note - a 2 month old puppy won't be able to hang on for 9 hours without having an accident and in a crate there will also be problems with water availability ie the puppy is likely to knock over any water bowl you put in there. If you've got someone who can let the puppy out every few hours while you're at work that will help hugely with toilet training.

    A crate a good den in the small easy clean space of your choice. And it's very useful if you have to leave the puppy anywhere while you do something else. I even left mine outside the pub window in the shade of a tree in her crate while I had lunch - she was safe from small children, other dogs and old farmers... and bonus - in the soft sided crate - the flies couldn't get her either. Soft sided crates aren't the best for puppies tho - they eat them.

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    I respectfully disagree that it is a good idea to crate a puppy for this length of time.
    I would be supplying toys etc, a walk before and after work, playtime together and inside at night. Ideally you, or someone else could look in mid day.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Hi 'Dave Browning' and to the forum ! Hope you enjoy being a member here !

    Congratulations on your new pup ! Would love to see some photos – please !

    What is the set up for her when you aren’t home ? Has she got somewhere to go where it is nice, warm and out of the weather ? If not – then maybe look at something like this:

    Elevated Trampoline Hammock CAT DOG Puppy PET BED House With Removable Cover | eBay

    Macey is still very young and very new to you and her new home. Everything takes time, patience and training.

    Crate training is good and useful and something that you could look at – but not for the pup to be in there for 9 hours during the day. A playpen set up would be more appropriate.

    Some links for you to have a look at - which I hope you will find useful:

    Free downloads | Dog Star Daily

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/puppy-dis...-calendar.html

    Steve Courtney Dog Training Knowledge Base - Steve Courtney Dog Training - Free Dog Training Tips

    Kikopup has videos covering just about any question you may have about your pup’s training and behaviour.

    kikopup - YouTube

    English | Dogmantics Dog Training

    I thought Macey did really well on her first day - so don't give up and Good Luck !
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