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    Hi all,

    I need some advice…

    When I first brought puppy home I had his puppy pen in the dining area. When I was home, I would take him to a designated toilet area outside. This area was a little patch of sand at the end of the patio (you wont be able to see it in the photo below). This was about 15meters away from his play area.. not ideal when you taking him to the toilet in the middle of the night as he would sometimes end up going to the toilet along the way.

    As you can see, the patio is brick and fairly large: Patio - a set on Flickr

    I have since moved his play pen to the other end of the house as it’s a larger area for puppy (3m x 3m), as well as having views of our lounge, kitchen, dining and outside area, so a much better location. The problem though is that this location is about 25-30 meters away from the little sand patch. In the middle of the night, there was no way puppy would be able to hold.. and it’s a bit far for me too when im half asleep in the middle of the night.

    With this mind, I have just been letting puppy go to the toilet on the bricks outside his play area, which is easier for us both. The thing is that its not ideal as the patio bricks are covered with poo’s and wee’s. At least they are outside!

    So keeping my puppy’s best interests at heart as well as not letting him get into any bad habits, which option do you think would be best:

    1: Allow him to keep wee’ing and poo’ing on the patio outside his play area, but I will need to clean up (daily) and perhaps hose down weekly. What I normally do is cover his poo with white sand, so I know where it is (and I don’t stand on it), it seems to make it easier to pickup and clean and when I get around to hosing it down, I have a ‘marker’ for the places I need to hose down

    2: Make two puppy toilets (using synthetic grass), one large one and a smaller one. The large one can be place outside his play area on the patio. I will train him to use this area for his toilet (and not just anywhere on the patio). I will also get a smaller puppy toilet, which I will put inside his play pen, which will be used while im at work. Hopefully this will assist puppy going to the correct indoor toilet area while im at work as both toilets (inside one and outside some) will be similar (both are synthetic grass)

    What would be a better option (1 or 2)?

    Added to the above, toilet training is going well. The are hardly any accidents inside the house when im home as I have become good at knowing when he needs to go to the toilet. Obviously when hes alone in the day, he doesn’t have anyone to take him to the toilet, so he goes in the ‘general’ area of where I put down newspaper.

    Cheers,
    Robbie

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    It is best to use the KISS principle when dealing with your pup - particularly with toilet training !

    It is also useful to teach your pup what you want him to do when he is older. Don't chop and change what he is allowed to do - because he will not be the only one getting really confused !

    Pups thrive on routine and consistency !

    Why can't you set up a few toilet areas for your pup ?

    Why not - at this stage - pick him up and carry him out ?

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    It is also useful to teach your pup what you want him to do when he is older. Don't chop and change what he is allowed to do - because he will not be the only one getting really confused !
    That is why i have asked advice on the best option... which i plan to stick with


    Why can't you set up a few toilet areas for your pup ?
    That is was one of my options (number 2), plan to make something like this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/115697...57642973590264

    When im at home, this toilet will stay outside and will be his designated outside area (better than him going on the patio). When im not home, i will bring it inside for him to use, so theres no confusion i.e. he only has one toilet, which is used indoors (when im away) and outdoors when im home.

    Why not - at this stage - pick him up and carry him out ?
    As mentioned in my initial post, this area is about 25-30 meters away from his sleeping area and currently he cannot hold it that far in the middle of the night and i prefer something a little close (as im the one carrying him there, in the cold and dark)

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    If his choices of toilet areas are paving or sand - I'm not sure I'd offer up synthetic grass. I'd offer up paving covered in sand. Or just sand.

    Sand is good - it doesn't splash like paving does. My horse would leave hard surfaces to go pee on non-splash ones, so animals know they don't want pee on themselves. I'd fill the box with sand from the area where you want him to toilet eventually.

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    Well - the best comment I can make now is – Do what works for you and your pup !

    Toilet training does not take forever – even though it can seem like it ! To put things in perspective - Pups are much easier to train than kids !

    So if you haven’t bought the fake grass and container – I wouldn’t bother - I would just continue on with the newspaper. Chances are the breeder was using newspaper anyway. The pup has already been with you for nearly a week now – so keep things simple.

    I would use a tarp or plastic sheeting under the newspaper and set one up both inside and outside. Use bricks to hold your pup’s toilet down outside !

    Start off with a large area of newspaper and then gradually lessen the size of the area that it covers. Change the newspaper when it is soiled – but leave the tarp or plastic down for the smell to encourage pup to go back there.

    Start training a code word for toileting – like ‘wee wees’, ‘toilet’ – whatever. Use your word - day and night when ever you see the pup going to the toilet where you want him to go.

    I inadvertently trained Riley to poop in the garden beds. I wasn’t aiming for that – but for his first big one of the morning when we were mooching around the yard early in the morning – he got his toilet word and a ‘good boy’ and so now 9 times out of 10 – poo patrol is not a big deal !

    I didn't like the fake grass idea – because unless you are totally anal about cleaning – that stuff starts to smell bad really quickly. So much so – even the pup will refuse to use it !

    Really pleased to hear that he is getting the idea and there haven’t been any or too many ‘oopsies’ in the house ! Trust me – he will get better and better !

    If Riley can be housetrained - any pup can. I got him as a 2 year old that was a totally outside dog. Some hours driving and he became an inside dog !
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    Ummm, Brock uses the fake grass lawn here most of the time, and except for the odd occasion when he has really runny poo, it just picks up and you would never know. If it's a real runny one, it just gets washed through the fake grass into the gravel below - no smell at all after it's been picked up.

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