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    Hello all,

    I will be collecting my Chocolate Labrador puppy next week. I'm naturally very excited and like an expectant father (sad) I have been doing all kinds of reading and shopping in preparation!

    The issue I'm struggling with is how early can I start taking my puppy to classes and other places?

    Both the vets and local park do puppy classes from 8weeks but he won't have had all his vaccinations and these seem to be the most likely places he'd be exposed to infections?

    All advice is welcome.

    Cheers john

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    As far ass I know, you just need the 6 week vaccination done before you can start puppy classes? This is what i was told as we start next week

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    Yeah they've said they will take a puppy after their first shots - but are they 100% protected from the most common nasties?

    Quote Originally Posted by robbiepapenfus View Post
    As far ass I know, you just need the 6 week vaccination done before you can start puppy classes? This is what i was told as we start next week

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    The puppy classes at the vets are probably as safe as you can get, I wouldn't be doing the park ones though. Some vets say that the 10week vaccination is enough but most people/vets I've asked recommend waiting till the 16 week shot. In the mean time, if you have friends with properly vaccinated dogs, play time with them in your or their backyard is again pretty safe.

    At the end of the day, nothing is totally safe, it's about understanding the risks and minimising them.

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    Im undecided. What i can tell you is: Vet advise differently in different parts of the hemisphere.

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    My next puppy (which will probably be a long way off because i plan to rescue an adult dog when i'm finally ready for another dog... also a long way off) will have socialisation put first. I made the mistake of not socialising my dog Koda as a pup and now he has reactive issues. My vet has told me that is is okay to take a not fully vaccinated pup out as long as you avoid unvaccinated dogs. Thats a bit hard but i guess, taking the pup to a place that dogs don't go very often would give you the opportunity to socialise him with people, cars, bikes etc etc. You just need to be careful. I agree with others, have play dates with friends dogs who are vaccinated, the earlier you start the less chance there is of future problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddogdodge View Post
    My next puppy (which will probably be a long way off because i plan to rescue an adult dog when i'm finally ready for another dog... also a long way off) will have socialisation put first. I made the mistake of not socialising my dog Koda as a pup and now he has reactive issues. My vet has told me that is is okay to take a not fully vaccinated pup out as long as you avoid unvaccinated dogs. Thats a bit hard but i guess, taking the pup to a place that dogs don't go very often would give you the opportunity to socialise him with people, cars, bikes etc etc. You just need to be careful. I agree with others, have play dates with friends dogs who are vaccinated, the earlier you start the less chance there is of future problems.
    Same here! I made this mistake with Harley as well so I don't ever want to repeat it.

    I've always been told so long as the other dogs they play with are fully vaccinated and healthy you shouldn't have an issue. The vet and dog training places should be fine too. I would avoid letting him loose in parks and public places where dogs are common though until he is fully vaccinated. If you want to get him use to different people/sounds/places just carry him there

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    Hi 'Jonnyfurious' and to the forum ! Hope you enjoy being a member here !

    Congratulations on your new pup arriving soon – how exciting !

    I would be checking with the breeder regarding what vaccinations the pup has actually been given. Then if you have found a vet you like – then ask their advice. The vet should be very aware as to what sort of problems are showing up in your area of the world !

    There are suggested protocols re: vaccinations – as below:

    APVMA Position Statement - Vaccination Protocols For Dogs And Cats

    Parvo is the biggest worry I have with young pups – so I try to be as sensible as I can. Leash free dog parks and areas where a lot of dogs are seen – particularly off lead - are a big NO NO !

    Puppy Kindy at the vets is OK – but I prefer to use the training school that I am planning to use for future obedience training. The one that I use - has a designated area that they own, all dogs that enter the area must be vaccinated – so pups are pretty safe there.

    Socialisation of your pup takes into account heaps and heaps of other things – than just running around like crazy and playing with other dogs.

    Some info on early socialization of your pup:

    What should I do when I bring home a new puppy? - RSPCA Australia knowledgebase

    Steve Courtney Dog Training � Knowledge Base

    Good Luck and can't wait to see photos of your new pup !

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    I think it depends on the risk profile of the area you live in. The parvo virus can stay in the environment a very long time and some areas are considerably more risky than others. My friend took his working vaccinated kelpie bitch to be mated to a very good male in another part of the state and this was the only time she had been off his property. Shortly after she returned he lost an entire litter of pups to parvo and we think it must have come back on the bitch or my friends boots.

    I also had a friend lose a pup that had its first vaccination when she took him out and about in a reletively high risk area. He never came directly in contact with another dog so it would have come from the environment where an infected dog had shed the virus. Summer is particularly high risk.

    I only vaccinate my dogs twice on recommendation of the vets over here . They say with the newer vaccines this is fine. The last vacc is at 10-12 weeks and then I wait about 10 days. Never had a problem. I do take my pups out and about before then but I never put them on the ground. The exception is puppy classes at the vets and isolated beaches at low tide.

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    A good example of socialisation !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQg2UzPHJDE

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