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    I have never taken any puppy of mine over the years to puppy pre school as IMO it's a waste of money and I've never taken a pup anywhere till the last vaccination at 16 wks because it's a huge risk to the pups life. Yes I did say life...waiting a little longer to socialize your pup won't kill it but Parvo will and to me it's not worth the risk.
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    Have got a good point Dogman.

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    'Eli03' - did you read all of this thread ? Socialisation is about heaps of other things than just letting your pup run wild and play with other dogs.

    Training your pup is very important - for both you and your pup. 16 weeks is probably too old for puppy classes - but find a good dog training school that you like - then go for it.

    Any hassles - then there will be probably be someone on here that could guide you to a good training school.

    Just ask !

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    My vet does puppy pre-school until the dog is about four months old. 16 weeks is not too old. Eli03's dog is only 13 weeks?

    So Frosty and I did puppy preschool, I think she was a little bit old when we started because I didn't want to go during Christmas New Year chaos period so we went after. So she would have been about 16 weeks old then. Last vax had definitely had its two weeks of building immunity too. Ie it's not the day you have the last vax - it's two weeks after that the full immunity is developed enough for going to risky places.

    It's a toss up - I think the parvo stats for SA were somewhere around 35 to 60 dogs / puppies die of Parvo - mostly in the Salisbury / Elizabeth area (where dogs not routinely vaccinated or desexed). And the number PTS because they are dumped and end up at the pound - is more like thousands per year. Ie the dogs that are impossible to live with (unsocialised and untrained and unwanted) die at a much higher rate than parvo kills puppies.

    PS I think puppy pre school and puppy school were well worth the money. And even the dog club money spent ruining my dog but getting a certificate of trained dog for council rego discount - paid for itself.

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    Take your dog in the car or carry it. All the working pups I know go out from 5 weeks of age either in a stroller, car or carried around to be exposed to things. 16 weeks to introduce your dog to the world is 11 weeks of lost socialisation when you think about it and that is the dogs critical period. RileyJ is right, socialisation is nothing to do with the introduction to other dogs, it's teaching the dog when exposed to X stimulus you behave like this or ignore it totally. Your dog has to live in society, you need to expose them so they understand and more importantly learn to generalise - so take a lesson they learn about one thing and transfer it onto other potentially stimulating things down the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekhbet View Post
    Take your dog in the car or carry it. All the working pups I know go out from 5 weeks of age either in a stroller, car or carried around to be exposed to things. 16 weeks to introduce your dog to the world is 11 weeks of lost socialisation when you think about it and that is the dogs critical period. RileyJ is right, socialisation is nothing to do with the introduction to other dogs, it's teaching the dog when exposed to X stimulus you behave like this or ignore it totally. Your dog has to live in society, you need to expose them so they understand and more importantly learn to generalise - so take a lesson they learn about one thing and transfer it onto other potentially stimulating things down the track.
    Yes I carried my pups everywhere into all sorts of stimulating environments. I give 2 pupppy vaccs as do most of us over here so mine are out and about on the ground by 12-13 weeks. But have had plenty of car trips and carrying prior.

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