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    how should i do this? he usually sleeps inside but i want him to sleep outside sometimes as well. just stick him outside one night? he's got a little house but i don't think he likes it yet, he's never spent a night out alone before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goggles View Post
    how should i do this? he usually sleeps inside but i want him to sleep outside sometimes as well. just stick him outside one night? he's got a little house but i don't think he likes it yet, he's never spent a night out alone before.
    The only question I will ask at this stage - is - why do you want your pup to sleep outside ?

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    I feel very sad for the puppy.

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    Why wouldn't you want a pup to be used to sleeping outside sometimes? I think its a really good thing to have a dog used to that from an early age. Once they're used to it they're fine... i don't understand why sleeping outside is a reason to feel sad for the pup, its not like he is being totally neglected.
    My dogs sleep outside... yes if it were up to me they would sleep on my bed at night... but its not my house and not my rules. When i got Koda as a pup, he slept in the laundry for two nights and then he went outside. I think starting him outside early really helped. Presuming you've had your pup for a while, suddenly wanting him to adjust from sleeping inside to being outside may be quite challenging. I'm not entirely sure on the best way to achieve this easily without stressing the pup out. Perhaps you could get him used to sleeping in a crate inside, and once he is used to that you could move the crate outside. Perhaps you could also put blankets over the crate so it feels more enclosed and safe/warm. Not sure how well that would work, i'm just throwing ideas around here. Good luck

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    my pup sleeps under my bed and that's where i find him when i come home in the afternoon and i don't have a problem with that. he was toilet trained when i got him and although he chews a few things he shouldn't i don't really have a problem with him. he doesn't like being left outside alone but it's getting better. he used to be terrified of everything but his confidence levels have really gone up.

    but he's not a lap dog. he going to get bigger soon and i don't want ingrained in his mind that under my bed is the only place to sleep and i don't want for him to think that i'm punishing him for making him sleep outside either.

    what kind of dog has to sleep inside? what if something happens to me and everyone forgets to let the dog in?

    my dog would rather have spent his whole night tonight chasing christmas beetles than sleep through a movie with me. but there would come a time in the middle of the night when i would have to wake up and let him in and i have a big sliding glass door so i can't install a doggie door although that would have been ideal.

    i know he would much rather sleep under my bed but what if i go out at night? who's going to let him out to pee? my dog doesn't have free reign over the whole house, it's just one large room and my room near the kitchen so if he starts making toilet signals no one would know. What if no one was home? No one's going to leave him inside and spend the whole night out.

    And I'm not buying a crate for him either. I know my dog would rather be outside in his doghouse and a big backyard with animals and the neighbours cat to growl at than be pent up in a tiny cage with a bowl of water.

    There's nothing wrong with a dog living outside. A dog living outside cannot get the attention or affection a dog needs (human/dog bonding time) so they end up a little bit weird but that's not a problem for my dog since he spends the majority of his time with me inside. It's just some days i need for him to be outside because I won't be here to watch over him.


    edit - the crate thing might work but it costs money and I don't know if I could get my dog to sleep in one. Probably not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goggles View Post
    my pup sleeps under my bed and that's where i find him when i come home in the afternoon and i don't have a problem with that. he was toilet trained when i got him and although he chews a few things he shouldn't i don't really have a problem with him. he doesn't like being left outside alone but it's getting better. he used to be terrified of everything but his confidence levels have really gone up.

    but he's not a lap dog. he going to get bigger soon and i don't want ingrained in his mind that under my bed is the only place to sleep and i don't want for him to think that i'm punishing him for making him sleep outside either.

    what kind of dog has to sleep inside? what if something happens to me and everyone forgets to let the dog in?

    my dog would rather have spent his whole night tonight chasing christmas beetles than sleep through a movie with me. but there would come a time in the middle of the night when i would have to wake up and let him in and i have a big sliding glass door so i can't install a doggie door although that would have been ideal.

    i know he would much rather sleep under my bed but what if i go out at night? who's going to let him out to pee? my dog doesn't have free reign over the whole house, it's just one large room and my room near the kitchen so if he starts making toilet signals no one would know. What if no one was home? No one's going to leave him inside and spend the whole night out.

    And I'm not buying a crate for him either. I know my dog would rather be outside in his doghouse and a big backyard with animals and the neighbours cat to growl at than be pent up in a tiny cage with a bowl of water.

    There's nothing wrong with a dog living outside. A dog living outside cannot get the attention or affection a dog needs (human/dog bonding time) so they end up a little bit weird but that's not a problem for my dog since he spends the majority of his time with me inside. It's just some days i need for him to be outside because I won't be here to watch over him.


    edit - the crate thing might work but it costs money and I don't know if I could get my dog to sleep in one. Probably not.
    I totally agree with most of your points Goggles A dog is not being totally neglected if it spends some of its nights outside, if they have a warm bed there shouldn't be a problem. Dodge loves being outside, even if she was allowed to sleep inside she wouldn't. She just loves her kennel too much

    One thing i don't understand is your point about a dog living outside doesn't get the attention it needs and will end up a bit weird. That may happen for some dogs but that most definitely isn't the case for all dogs. Both my dogs have never lived in the house, yet the bond they have with their people would rival the bonds i've seen from dogs who are constantly with their owners. Dodge is fiercely loyal to my Dad, they have an incredible bond! Koda and i also have an exceptional bond, i often get comments saying how Koda "only has eyes for me" which is true, I am his person and he adores me, i've never bonded with a dog like i have with Koda.

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    I completely agree as well. I'm all for dogs learning to be flexible and adaptable. It dramatically reduces stress when day to day life doesn't go to plan and owner is late, delayed, sick etc if they dog isn't completely set into a strict routine. I learnt to do it when I worked shifts, overtime and on call. Life is unpredictable and dogs should be secure enough in their home life to adapt to small changes like different sleeping spots or feeding times without stress.

    Yes routine is a great training tool, but being super rigid can cause a different set of problems.

    If he's not keen on his little house have you tried a trampoline bed? Many dogs love having a bed that they can see all around from, especially if it's near a traffic area like on a verandah near the door etc.

    If you make a new outdoor sleeping spot you can make it familiar by putting blanket under the bed for a couple of days - then moving that blanket to the outside bed. Can give pup the idea that this is a sleeping spot just like under the bed is.

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    I do agree it's better to get dogs used to changes in routine, but I take the easiest way out on this. I always leave the back door open. That way, I don't have to worry if I come home late or later than I intended. The dogs never get cold or wet, never get stuck inside having to wee, etc. I'm about to buy one of those sliding door inserts so I don't have to leave the actual door open, but I just cannot see any reason why I wouldn't always allow my dogs access to the house. I think it's a very easy way to prevent nuisance barking, escaping and anxiety. More so if there's only one dog and if they are prone to suffer from anxiety like my staghound was.

    I know I'm in the minority amongst dog owners, but to me it makes perfect sense. I've gotten used to doing a quick check before I leave to make sure that nothing valuable can be destroyed (only applicable to the pup these days but my own dog used to be a shocker) or that they can't raid the bin, etc. I do have to clean the carpet more because of all the walking in and out and I know they occasionally sneak bones in too. But to me that's worth it for the benefits it brings both me and the dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goggles View Post
    my dog would rather have spent his whole night tonight chasing christmas beetles than sleep through a movie with me. but there would come a time in the middle of the night when i would have to wake up and let him in and i have a big sliding glass door so i can't install a doggie door although that would have been ideal.
    You can put a doggy door in a glass sliding door and I agree that is the ideal setup. Brock has access to both inside and outside as he pleases whether i'm here or not - doggy doors are great!

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    I'm about to buy one of those inserts for our glass door. I found one for $145 (for a large, the medium is $115 but would be just too small for mine). Ideal if you live in a rental or plan to move in the foreseeable future too because you can just take it with, so worth the investment, I think.

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