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    Hi.
    I have read so many articles and had so much different advice regarding the age to desex my dog.
    He is a 6 mth old male samoyed and some say not until he is 18mths-2 yrs due to the bone growth and development and risk of bone issues if done too soon, others have said he can be done anytime and wont cause issues, unsure what too believe? the breeder suggests now as does the trainer and the vet.
    He is starting to lift his leg and pee along the fence line and becomming more and more ignorant in training.
    I also recently read an article where over 84% of fatal dog bites are from desexed animals, so will def be getting him done, just when to get him done!

    Whats your opinion on the best age?
    thanks

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    It's a good question.

    Lots of vets like to do it at around 6 months of age but will wait till 18 months for big boned dogs like Great Danes, and maybe 12 to 18 months for Labradors.

    Early desex does affect bone growth.

    It's not clear from my personal experience whether this is going to be a problem or not. My dog got desexed by AWL at 8 weeks - rescues and shelters are really paranoid about unwanted puppies - the last thing they want is for the puppy they homed to come back with more puppies of its own.

    But desex - can help with all that marking - as long as you get it before it becomes too much of a habit. You can also deal with that by training. Each time he cocks his leg - gently push him off balance so he must squat. My favourite dog trainer never lets her boy dogs cock legs to pee.

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    Exactly what Hyacinth said. And it's a very good question. I'm in the same situation as you with a 14 month old mastiff cross. I've decided to wait til he's 18 months old at least, but maybe longer yet due to other health issues he's had - I want to let him finish growing and developing before I get him done. I've also had no issues with him yet (other than pissing on everything, and the novelty of that seems to have worn off and he isn't as bad any more) so it doesn't seem urgent at all to me at the moment.

    Training is definitely the key. My boy is well behaved because it is expected of him. I do wish I had done the knocking him off balance thing when he cocks his leg. Didn't think of it, and didn't hear about it until it was too late

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    What about females? Our vet says to desex her right now to reduce chances of mammary cancer,ovarian etc. Her breeder says 6 months , another breeder recommended 12 months as the best time to desex.

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    All ours were desexed at 6 mths old...except my GSD boy who was done at 11 mths of age. We have never had any health or Temperament problems...yes there are many opinions on what age to do it...but for me 6 mths is fine.

    My GSD boy Rex now 11 yrs old has never lifted his leg...before or after desexing...he just leans forward and lifts his tail . If you're in NSW and have your dog or bitch desexed at 6 mths you only pay $46 Whole of life Rego...but wait longer and it's $150 and there's no refund if you decide to desex him or her later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckycow View Post
    What about females? Our vet says to desex her right now to reduce chances of mammary cancer,ovarian etc. Her breeder says 6 months , another breeder recommended 12 months as the best time to desex.
    I didn't do as much research on females, but there are some on here who have. It seemed to be a similar thing, although from memory there were more health reasons to desex early. My 11 yr old bitch was done before 6 months and we've had no problems other than a touch of incontinence as she gets older. The last desexed bitch I had was incontinent also as she aged. She too was done young, but I have no idea if that is the reason or if it's a common complaint with desexed bitches no matter how old they're done. Hopefully those with more knowledge than me will add their comments, but I highly recommend doing a bit of your own research, it seems to me it comes down to personal choice at the end of the day.

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    A friend of mine got her male Collie dog desexed at 4 months old and he has only grown to be the size of an average female standard. I believe it does affect bone/height growth.
    My Kelpie pup is 8 months old, I'll be getting her done in January at 10 months old - that's between 6 and 12 months of age lol I don't know if 6 is better or 12 months so I'll go with in between :P

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    10 months old could be after her first heat (which some vets think is a good thing) - just be really careful when she does go on heat - to make sure that no dogs can get at her - which means locking her up somewhere that has a roof and a floor and solid doors and windows for a couple of weeks. If you do take her for walks - try to stop her scent trail crossing your boundary ie drive her somewhere (if your car starts on your place).

    And go some place were there are unlikely to be other dogs, or they are more likely to be all desexed. And warn people. Because a bitch on heat is often very grumpy and can cause fights among other boy dogs and it's only fair that other dog owners are warned.

    he has only grown to be the size of an average female standard
    It does affect growth - but it actually makes the dog taller and narrower - not shorter. So the collie dog height was more likely to be a genetic factor (short dog in his ancestry).

    http://www.caninesports.com/uploads/...tions_2013.pdf
    (note they move this pdf around from time to time so you have to go back to the Canine Sports Productions - Canine Sports Productions Home Page to find it sometimes.)
    Dogs that have been spayed or neutered at or before puberty can often be identified by their longer
    limbs, lighter bone structure, narrower chests and narrower skulls than intact dogs of the same breed
    The article also argues that the longer limbs mean that the dog conformation is wrong or not ideal - but I find that hard to believe - tho dogs that are subject to "natural selection" and have to hunt their own food are probably the only ones with an ideal conformation. Think dingo or wolf or all those Asian semi feral dogs.
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 12-09-2013 at 10:13 AM.

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    Thanks all
    We have had two incidences of growling/snapping over the weekend ( one when lay down and the other because he didnt get his own way) and 3 vets I have rung, said to desex ASAP.
    Last edited by fairystar; 12-09-2013 at 10:31 AM.

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    He has been lifting his leg too pee since 3 mths old, so way too late but the marking the fence line is a new behaviour and as we live on a half acre, hard to stop!

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