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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    Thanks Sean She's doing well, due for a checkup with the vet tomorrow to make sure things are doing okay internally too.
    Kristy.Maree - 7 homes lined up (one without deposit, but a good backup).
    Game to post it? Maybe. I realised I didn't need the approval of strangers to pursue my own activities
    Either way the pics are up here for anyone who's curious - I'm not interested in another battle, so if one starts I'll be ignoring it. Enjoy everyone!
    No you dont need approval to pursue your activities but I have learned over the years that it can be wise to listen to experience, although not neccessarily on the internet LOL. These days I do tend to take note of words of advice from experienced people I have met and respect, while trialing my dogs and they have changed significanlty a lot of my earlier perceptions as has my own experience with dogs over the years. There has been so much that I have learned over the years with regards to dogs.

    Even though I may not neccessarily agree with your choice as you have said the decision has been made and was your choice so the puppies are now the priority. Yes it was a good move to keep your bitch home. A friend of mine recently lost a litter of working kelpie pups from a very expensive mating, to parvo virus and he thinks it is possible that the disease came back when he took is bitch on a long trip to mate with the chosen stud. Good luck and may it all go well!
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    Kalacreek - you're right, but since I don't know even one of you in person (which generally eases my suspicion / skepticism), let alone know your extent of experience (self proclamation does not count in my books - I like seeing proof), I take everything that's said here with a grain of salt. After all, as you say, it is the internet - and 9 times out of 10, the advice I meet with through forums is false. So no hard feelings. I don't doubt for a minute this'll be a huge learning experience (already has been), and I only want to learn more with time, but since in my view, the pros outweighed the cons, especially since the vet consult, I decided to go through with it

    RE your friend - would it maybe have been a better option to go artificial insemination? I thought that was relatively common. But maybe the stud didn't have any stored sperm on hand or just didn't do that..


    Back on topic - puppies are doing well. They grow SO fast! Have named one "Tank" for his size and bulldozing-through-the-rest-of-the-litter-ness. One of the puppies is likely to go to my best friend, which really eases my mind because I know she and her family are so devoted to their pets, and they want a companion for their other mixed-breed dog.

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    Lots of puppy pics please

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    Striker for me it is probably more of a philosophical choice my thoughts on breeding dogs. I often ask the question, why on earth do we need more puppies, kittens etc in a world that is overflowing with them. We often breed our dogs to fulfill our own needs which is a typical characteristic of humans on a planet already groaning from our impact. Just my observations from living a rather long time on this planet already. I try and context the personal choices I make with this in mind. Not always successfully, but I try.

    Re my friend an parvo. With working dogs, if there is an exceptional working dog in the district, they will often be used as a stud by surrounding farmers and in this case I doubt sperm was available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    Striker for me it is probably more of a philosophical choice my thoughts on breeding dogs. I often ask the question, why on earth do we need more puppies, kittens etc in a world that is overflowing with them. We often breed our dogs to fulfill our own needs which is a typical characteristic of humans on a planet already groaning from our impact. Just my observations from living a rather long time on this planet already. I try and context the personal choices I make with this in mind. Not always successfully, but I try.
    Fair enough that's your view. For me, I have a large number of friends who want border collies that won't cost a mint and they know and love my dogs well, particularly Bonnie, for her sweet nature. Since they know Bonnie, Rebel, and me, and that health checks are being done, I suppose they're keen to buy from me instead of buy elsewhere. I don't think that's a bad thing - their choice really. I don't have a problem with people breeding any dogs provided they have the health checks done and definite homes, even if they're mixed breed. A dog's a dog's a dog. And I know a great deal of you have bitzers. Regardless though, that's my view, and I get that others will have differing views.

    Puppies - the smallest (male) has started to 'toddle', and their eyes are just beginning to open a crack! Ears are 'un-sticking' from the sides of their heads and are pointing forward more now, and they're getting noticeably bigger every day :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    Fair enough that's your view. For me, I have a large number of friends who want border collies that won't cost a mint and they know and love my dogs well, particularly Bonnie, for her sweet nature. Since they know Bonnie, Rebel, and me, and that health checks are being done, I suppose they're keen to buy from me instead of buy elsewhere. I don't think that's a bad thing - their choice really. I don't have a problem with people breeding any dogs provided they have the health checks done and definite homes, even if they're mixed breed. A dog's a dog's a dog. And I know a great deal of you have bitzers. Regardless though, that's my view, and I get that others will have differing views.

    Puppies - the smallest (male) has started to 'toddle', and their eyes are just beginning to open a crack! Ears are 'un-sticking' from the sides of their heads and are pointing forward more now, and they're getting noticeably bigger every day :3
    Yes well at least you have the homes lined up and you have done the genetic testing. Seems to be a lot of Border collies I know recently turning up with HD from unscreened matings, often not detected till they are young adults. I guess the initial impression you gave was that Bonnie had a slightly reactive or nervous nature and I know this trait in some Border collies all to well and avoid it. The internet is a tricky place and things can be misinterpreted.

    Anyway you have done all the screening, lined up the homes to friends so you will be in the loop with the pups as they mature, and the friends like the dogs natures so that is that is good. Be interesting to hear how they all grow and mature.

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