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    I didn't want a rescue dog I wanted a spoodle pup plain and simple, and that's what we got $1050 was the price then. I checked and found that was the rate for all the pet shops around (but now it $1400 a pup) She has now been desexed, had all her vacs and is registered. The majority of dogs in our local dog park I found came from that one shop. Our puppy is healthy and happy but bites, so I need to work on that problem a bit better. I know ethically I did the right think after my experience with the scungy breeders supplying spoodles. Breeder registration I found doesn't guarantee ethics and honesty. But that is my area and perhaps in the rest of the country it is (and likely to be from all your advice) the other way around

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    I should add that we have our annual fete next Sunday and there are usually stands for dog breeders and the local shop as well. It will be interesting to go to each stand and compare but I think I know what I will find. Our puppy is thriving but the biting continues. Training for that is proving more difficult than anticipated. And the barking is starting to become a problem which is a little ironic since I wrote the policy of my State on legal controls and management of excessive barking and that was at a time when I didn't have a dog.

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    Is this puppy play biting or is she showing actual aggression towards people. In what context is she barking?

    When breeding puppies both temperament and physical soundness are important. This is why when I buy a pup I like to check out the parents for temperament and also get word of mouth information on the general temperament of the lines that I am interested in. Unfortunately breeders of designer dogs can often get away with a lot more because there is always a lineup to buy these puppies, hence the outrageous price tags and potentially lax selection criteria.

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    She bites only gently and playfully when she greets us but it becomes more aggressive when I play with her. Her barking is in the context of guard dog even to imaginary intruders. She took 4 months to be house trained and even now I am not confident. I dont know the parents. There is a 6 month waiting list for spoodles in my suburb and pretty soon it will have the most dogs of any breed in these parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogert View Post
    She bites only gently and playfully when she greets us but it becomes more aggressive when I play with her. Her barking is in the context of guard dog even to imaginary intruders. She took 4 months to be house trained and even now I am not confident. I dont know the parents. There is a 6 month waiting list for spoodles in my suburb and pretty soon it will have the most dogs of any breed in these parts
    Oh goodness, no wonder these breeders get a way with so much. Mind you there is often a waiting list for well bred working dogs but usually because you are waiting for specific genetics. I have rescues where I dont know the parents but if I were to specifically choose a pup I would certainly want to know a lot about the parents and lines, it can sometimes help avoid heartache.

    Some dogs can play bite aggressively but you have to teach boundaries. For example I had a cattle dog who would always be gentle on bare flesh but if I put on a pair of welding gloves she then could be as mouthy as she liked. But she totally understood the boundaries. In your case I would definitely discourage any form of biting. There is no need for a dog to greet you by biting even if it is gentle. Dogs often hear things that we dont, but again she shouldnt be barking at all and sundry. Is she at all fearful of strangers or new things?

    How much training and exercise do you give her? If you can find a good dog club, obedience lessons are always good. I have never had a dog that took more than about 2 weeks to be housetrained, so that sounds like a real pain in the butt. You just have to be very patiently consistant and reward well. I would always take my puppies out after feeding and on a regular basis especially if they become restless. You can usually tell when they need to go. You just have to be committed and not give the dog any opportunity to slip up if possible. Accidents do happen but 4 months sounds an awful long time. Mind you I dont know much about spoodles, although poodles are smart dogs, we had one once. My dogs are all working breeds and very smart on the uptake, so very easy to train.

    Is she crate trained? this can be a very usefull thing to train for.

    There is a lot to learn for first pups and plenty of mistakes to be made. I think many of us have been there before. If you perceive a problem, dont let it become entrenched, seek advice to solve it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogert View Post
    I know ethically I did the right think after my experience with the scungy breeders supplying spoodles. Breeder registration I found doesn't guarantee ethics and honesty. But that is my area and perhaps in the rest of the country it is (and likely to be from all your advice) the other way around
    Can you please point me in the direction of an ANKC registered spoodle breeder? Oh you can't? No wonder you couldn't find an ethical registered breeder as they don't breed mutts.

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    Lol $1050 cheap for a mixed breed mutt? You can get a ANKC registered dog for that price.

    God maybe I should get into the puppy farming business... seems to be a lot of people with money to burn lol

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    Rogert I had to train everyone around me to stop any 'rough' play around Maggie, she got excited and the biting got harder. In the litter someone else would bite back, it would hurt and all would stop. That option not being present we had to put limits on the play, If she started my partner made a low growly sound ( more effective than my female version). The sound made her stop and look and we would divert her with something she could bite and play with that wasn't attached to a human.
    In regards house training there is no substitute for consistency and taking the dog out often and waiting waiting waiting. I have had lab x in the past that did take ages to train and I was delighted my BC was all but done by 12 weeks.
    One thing that has been very useful is a practice I picked up fro my sister. All their dogs are trained to go outside for a pee at 10pm (ish) just before everyone goes to bed. Clap hands outside pee and then settle down for the night. Maggie got the idea while we were staying and we continue it so when we are places where there is no dog door she can manage fine. No accidents
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    I trained mine with the words widdle widdle and now it is asked as a question when I open the back door.
    At nearly 4 years of age they know whether they want to go or not.

    Last thing before I go to bed I say it and go out myself and stand on the back verandah. They know that we all go off to bed after that one.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogert View Post
    She bites only gently and playfully when she greets us but it becomes more aggressive when I play with her. Her barking is in the context of guard dog even to imaginary intruders. She took 4 months to be house trained and even now I am not confident. I dont know the parents. There is a 6 month waiting list for spoodles in my suburb and pretty soon it will have the most dogs of any breed in these parts
    'rogert' - how about you start another thread about your pup ? A suggestion to start the thread would be - Could you please put up a photo of your pup ?

    Any questions you have are getting lost here in this thread - and I am sure you will get more people answering your questions.

    As far as I am concerned you have your pup - so let's move on !

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