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    When I wanted a dog I tried local rescues and have documented my story elsewhere.I got Maggie from a farmers wife who had in the past bred cattle dogs but currently had an accidental litter of border colliexkelpie. At the time I had not connected in my head the puppy mill - pet shop connection. I get it all now but I hadn't had a dog for 20 years and it just wasn't there. There is a good chance I would have got a dog from a pet shop if there had been one I liked. This person is exactly where I was then, you want a dog,have a good home, no crime, for some reason it became problematic.

    So he went to a pet shop, it seems harsh to condemn him for that, he has the dog now and is thrilled with it. He really didn't get it and why would he, it isn't common knowledge to non dog people. My friend I have documented before who keeps letting her maltese x have litters proudly announced last night another 7 puppies arrived last Friday. She is a nice person, I wouldn't want to be her dog though. She doesn't see at all anything wrong with the cycle at all.

    If the pet shop is responsible .... and I know it is a big if... maybe that is not so dreadful.

    He sounds like he will be a responsible caring dog owner, not fair to jump on him.

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    Most of my post is not for rogert but for others who might be thinking of getting a dog.

    I didn't know much about puppy mills or where pet shops got their dogs from either, but as far as I was concerned there were only two places to get a dog - an ANKC breeder you'd met at some dog club shows or got recommended by someone who had one of their dogs (which you'd met and liked), or rescue eg AWL or RSPCA. When I was actually looking - I didn't even know about petrescue.com.au. And my family had gotten one dog from the family farm - ie there are always working dog puppies around if you know who to ask.

    My main problem with Rogert - was from his post - it looked like he wanted to rock up somewhere they already had a litter of puppies and get one of those. As best I can tell with the reputable breeders - you find one that is looking to breed some time soon, make friends with them and get on their list. And if their dog has enough puppies you get one of those. You can't just rock up and take a puppy home like you do with the pet shops. So he's blaming the good breeder for planning their litters and checking their buyers, and blaming the other breeder (of instant puppies) for being a scam artist.

    It's true some people do all the right things - they think they've checked out a breeder - looked at their professional website and testimonials and even read the PM got a dog from there and they think they're doing the right thing... and we will disagree. Or they will fall in love with a particular colour or shape and not realise the problems that particular dog will come with - eg skin problems, blindness, eye problems, breathing problems, hip problems etc.

    Sometimes we have to make our own mistakes, and sometimes we can learn from others. To get the best puppy you need to do your research (from places other than the breeder's own website), and you need to be patient. Or you may as well go to rescue and give someone else's mistake, a good home. But I don't like rewarding the scam artists and people who use their dogs solely to make money without caring for the dog's quality of life.

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    Umm... are you guys okay?

    Normally you would be jumping up and down for pics, I know I'm curious to see this cute bundle of fluff

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    I think I would not be back if I were the person who started this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrview View Post
    If the pet shop is responsible .... and I know it is a big if... maybe that is not so dreadful.
    I know of some responsible pet shops, they check all the breeders they buy from and will not buy from them if the quality of the breeder is not up to scratch! So surprisingly enough... there is the occasional good pet shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrview View Post
    I think I would not be back if I were the person who started this post.
    In the past I've been the person sticking up for someone buying a pup from a petshop without knowing that there are reasons why they shouldn't.

    i read the OP and firstly saw a bait, nothing more, nothing less. The OP stated that they'd been told there are good reasons why they shouldn't buy from a petshop. Firstly I find it hard to believe that the people telling the OP they shouldn't buy from a petshop didn't explain why, but even if they didn't, how hard is it to google a few key words and quickly learn why not? For a complete newbie who has no idea, I will defend them everytime ... for someone who has been warned ... I honestly don't believe the OP even bought a pup, I reckon it's just a trolling post myself - who knows i guess.

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    it's rather unfair to slam ALL pet shops as bad, and frankly it's just wrong.

    i completely agree that a lot of them and probably most of them are terrible HOWEVER i happen to know a pet shop personally that will only buy from accredited, reputable breeders and only after inspecting
    there breeding conditions.

    No one has a right to label anyone anything without checking THE FACTS for that particular person. That goes for breeders, Pet shops and pet owners.

    Don't get me wrong, i hate puppy farms as much as the next bloke. But come on.

    End rant
    Last edited by Ven; 03-27-2013 at 08:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    In the past I've been the person sticking up for someone buying a pup from a petshop without knowing that there are reasons why they shouldn't.

    i read the OP and firstly saw a bait, nothing more, nothing less. The OP stated that they'd been told there are good reasons why they shouldn't buy from a petshop. Firstly I find it hard to believe that the people telling the OP they shouldn't buy from a petshop didn't explain why, but even if they didn't, how hard is it to google a few key words and quickly learn why not? For a complete newbie who has no idea, I will defend them everytime ... for someone who has been warned ... I honestly don't believe the OP even bought a pup, I reckon it's just a trolling post myself - who knows i guess.
    Could be in that case they need a life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ven View Post
    it's rather unfair to slam ALL pet shops as bad, and frankly it's just wrong.

    i completely agree that a lot of them and probably most of them are terrible HOWEVER i happen to know a pet shop personally that will only buy from accredited, reputable breeders and only after inspecting
    there breeding conditions.

    No one has a right to label anyone anything without checking THE FACTS for that particular person. That goes for breeders, Pet shops and pet owners.

    Don't get me wrong, i hate puppy farms as much as the next bloke. But come on.

    End rant
    I'm sure there are some petshops who do their best to ensure that their puppies come from "breeders" who aren't puppy farmers. How do you get away from the puppies sitting in a glass box all day and the impulse buyers who end up surrendering their pups?

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    After i read the OP's post i couldn't wait to see the replies lol.
    No one loves you like your dog does.

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