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    Hi Everyone,

    I am new to the DOGFORUM but am happy to have signed up it is very useful

    Anyway, i have a 5 month old Lab - her name is pepper. She is such a naughty but beautiful girl. i know puppies need lots of training etc. and of course puppies are going to be craaaaazy but I need some tips on a few different things she does.

    BITING:
    She loves to bite, if you pat her and she is in a playful mood which is most of the time she lieks to play by biting your hands, or even sometimes your feet, and now she is getting older and getting big chompers it hurts alot more than when she was a baby. the only advice i have been given is to be consistant and giving her a toy whenever she goes to bite and i have done this for the last 5 months but she still prefers fingers!

    BARKING:
    If pepper isn't recieving attention or doesn't have her way e.g. not picking her up or putting her on the lounge she will bark at you constantly in a very high pitch LOUD bark.

    SOOKINESS:
    I think i may of spoil her too much but she is very very very sooky, she has to be with you 24/7 or she cries and sooks, I love being with her all the time and spending as much time as i possibly can with her but sometimes i have to go to work or do things. She is slowly becoming and outside dog (as we have a large yard we didnt want to put her out there straight away). we also have a 9year old lab who she absolutley adores.

    PLAYING WITH THE CAR:
    Pepper likes to play with our cat and the cat also likes to play with Pepper however after a few seconds Pepper gets way to rough and drags the cat by the neck with her teeth!

    We have used a few methods to avoid hitting the dog (which i refuse to do) but every method we have tried she thinks is fun and games, and it doesn't bother her whatsoever.

    these are the few problems that i can think of at the moment, i am sure there will be plenty more that pop up but for the moment if anyone could please give me some advice on any of these issues it would be greatly appreciated

    Thanks Guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by peppersmummy View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    I am new to the DOGFORUM but am happy to have signed up it is very useful

    Anyway, i have a 5 month old Lab - her name is pepper. She is such a naughty but beautiful girl. i know puppies need lots of training etc. and of course puppies are going to be craaaaazy but I need some tips on a few different things she does.

    BITING:
    She loves to bite, if you pat her and she is in a playful mood which is most of the time she lieks to play by biting your hands, or even sometimes your feet, and now she is getting older and getting big chompers it hurts alot more than when she was a baby. the only advice i have been given is to be consistant and giving her a toy whenever she goes to bite and i have done this for the last 5 months but she still prefers fingers!

    BARKING:
    If pepper isn't recieving attention or doesn't have her way e.g. not picking her up or putting her on the lounge she will bark at you constantly in a very high pitch LOUD bark.

    SOOKINESS:
    I think i may of spoil her too much but she is very very very sooky, she has to be with you 24/7 or she cries and sooks, I love being with her all the time and spending as much time as i possibly can with her but sometimes i have to go to work or do things. She is slowly becoming and outside dog (as we have a large yard we didnt want to put her out there straight away). we also have a 9year old lab who she absolutley adores.

    PLAYING WITH THE CAR:
    Pepper likes to play with our cat and the cat also likes to play with Pepper however after a few seconds Pepper gets way to rough and drags the cat by the neck with her teeth!

    We have used a few methods to avoid hitting the dog (which i refuse to do) but every method we have tried she thinks is fun and games, and it doesn't bother her whatsoever.

    these are the few problems that i can think of at the moment, i am sure there will be plenty more that pop up but for the moment if anyone could please give me some advice on any of these issues it would be greatly appreciated

    Thanks Guys
    Hi, it is lovely to have a puppy isn't it. I have an 11 month old creatively intelligent border collie girl.
    I have to be honest, I wouldn't enjoy visiting you. I dislike being jumped on by dogs without my permission and being chewed on is, well, very annoying.
    Your lovely pup can only know the limits you teach her. I have found endless excellent advice from the trainer at obedience classes I have attended for the last 7 months. You will need to write a list of what behaviours are important to you. Yours will be different to mine of course.
    My dog is allowed to jump on my bed when invited , but no other time. She sits and waits for me to go through the door ( got tired of being yanked out tripping along the way) She sits and shakes a paw before I throw her ball. None of these may be important to you but it sounds like you are getting a teensy bit worried by some of the behaviour.
    Hitting your dog is not an option and it is great you realise that. Being a labrador she is probably food motivated. There is a great deal of advice here, I suggest you work on one behaviour at a time. I would start with biting, she is way to old for that now. In the litter the other puppies shriek loudly when hurt by a sibling and that way they learn not to bite. This worked for us, when Maggie went to chew we lowered our voices and growled a short disapproving noise. We also at the same time taught her to greet people by sitting down not jumping up. They do need to know what it is they are meant to be doing. Anyway there are far more expert people here than me, I just thought I would respond as this is very recent for me.
    At one point I posed a question about her behaviour and was bluntly told my puppy was rude and needed to learn some manners, they were right. Lots of luck, there is loads of information and support on this forum.

    By the way we love photos, what does she look like?
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    Hi and welcome!

    It sounds to me like your pup has learnt to try get your attention any way she can and that it doesn't matter at all whether it is negative or positive attention. Also, I had to learn the hard way with my dog that sometimes yelling, trying to grab her collar and similar is encouragement to them. They think you're joining in with their game and spurring them on!

    With the biting and also with the barking for attention, I would either respond by walking out of the room immediately until she calms down or put her in time-out (eg. the laundry) for 30-60 seconds. The first option is probably the best one, but I did use the laundry method when my dog was rude to visitors and that worked too.

    Key is to let your actions do all the talking. You don't need to say anything. Just get up without looking at her and walk away so she gets the message that that kind of behaviour doesn't get her any attention and immediately stops all the fun. It is also very important to praise her then when she is calm and shows self-control. You could add a yelp before you walk away to mark the exact moment when she got too rough.

    With leaving her outside, best to train this gradually. You can even start by simply opening the backdoor and closing it again without putting her out. Then put her out for a few seconds, then a few minutes etc. Of course, never let her in when she is whining. You can also train with you going out the front door.

    And with the cat, maybe you could put her lead on inside and let her drag it behind her. Then if she gets too rough, calmly grab the end of the lead and pull her away. Again, no need to say anything, the message is "rough play results in no play at all".

    I think if you start implementing simple strategies like that and in general pay more attention to when you give her attention - so really only when she is calm and well behaved - you'll be fine.

    If you like reading, I can highly recommend "Chill Out Fido!". It has some fantastic training exercises to get overexcitable dogs to choose to relax. They do use clicker training with treats, but that would work exceptionally well with most labs because they tend to be so food motivated. I can highly recommend clicker training for training most things.

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    She's beautiful
    She's just a typical puppy! all puppies did this at some point!
    As the others said, the best way to stop the barking and biting is to stop ALL fun as soon as she starts to bark or bite.
    When my dog, Koda, was a pup, if he jumped or tried to bite me. I instantly got up and turned my back, i gave him no eye contact, i didnt say anything... i basically made it look like i didnt know he was even there. If he continued to be naughty i would actually go inside, leaving him by himself. But as soon as he calmed down and started to act nicely, i went out and gave him LOTS of praise.
    It can be tedious if the pup takes a while to learn it... but its definately worth the effort

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    Hi 'peppersmummy' and to you and your pup to the forum.

    There are heaps of good threads on this forum, so have a good look around. Some of my favourites:

    Heaps of really useful information here – so please have a really good look around this site:
    Dog Star Daily

    This one below is from this forum and looks at what a pup goes through at different ages. Definitely don’t look at it to excuse bad behaviour – but to understand what your pup is going through at her different ages..
    http://www.dogforum.com.au/puppy-dis...-calendar.html

    This next one – is a really good read and will cover all the areas you need to look at for training your pup.
    TOT – Triangle of Temptation
    NILIF – Nothing in Life is Free
    Behavioural Interrupter
    Dog Behaviour Articles | Steve Courtney Dog Training

    Kikopup - makes things look so easy – so have a good look around her website.
    kikopup - YouTube

    This next one is also excellent:
    Patricia McConnell : Leslie McDevitt: Control Unleashed�: Home Page and Patricia McConnell PH.D. | McConnell Publishing Inc.

    So there you are - plenty of places to find really good information regarding training your pup !

    Have you started taking the pup to dog training classes ? I would suggest that classes would be good for both of you.

    As others have said - your pup is young - 5 months old - but as you are seeing - things that were cute when she was younger are no longer so as she is getting older and heavier !

    Good Luck !

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    Hi peppersmummy and welcome to the forum
    There isn't anything I can add to the previous posters. Lot's of great info there.
    The first year is the most challenging, but over all too quickly! Read everything you can, and don't be afraid of 'tough love' when training Pepper. It will be worth it in the long run.

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    hey peppersmummy!
    welcome to the forum.. im so happy to have another lab owner on board..lab puppies can be very challenging and get very attached. This has been a problem for me when training my seccond pup. the biting hands thing and my pup licks u when u pat her (very annoying) to solve it id just stop patting her when she did it and said "no biting" in a firm voice..then after a few secconds continue patting if she doesnt lick or bite..say "good girl" they are soo smart she will learn soon enough.
    the barking thing is just her saying "hey let me in!" my oldest does this sometimes coz she's spolit and thinks its her right to b inside lol..i over come this by ignoring her simply say "no" and walk away out of sight..worked for me

    hang in there
    lol labs are sooo naughty as pups but they are so worth it...theyre the best and they give back what you put into them

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    Thank you so much everyone! The advice you have provided me with is great! It's nice to know there are people in the same boat.

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    Research, research, research....The internet is an endless sea of knowledge, and this forum is where it all culminates! You will get there. Just keep reading up and your lightbulb moment will come.

    My puppy is much younger than yours (3 months) and has already stopped the above behaviours; biting especially is something I refuse to tolerate. I'm not bragging at all because I still have a lot of work to do with her, but what I have achieved took lots of effort, consistency and patience. Puppies need to know their boundaries and structure just as much as human babies do. They need boundaries to make sense of the world we're asking them to live in. Your baby won't hate you for using a stern voice...quite the opposite as you'll find her snuggling up next to you the next minute.

    Be strong, you can do it!

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