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    Hi everyone,

    My partner and I are looking at buying our first puppy together. We've each had dogs previously (Bearded Collies and Australian Shepherds) but as much as we love these breeds, we have moved into a smaller house with a small back yard. We live across from an oval, and so the dog will get exercise if not every day, every second day, and when we are at work during the week the new dog will spend the day playing with two bearded collies in a big back yard.

    We are looking for a puppy that is:
    1. medium-small sized (spoodle sized);
    2. medium to long-haired
    3. non-shedding (or low shedding)
    4. intelligent
    5. good with children
    6. able to cope with the amount of exercise we can realistically give it.

    The spoodle seems to check all of these boxes, but doing further research, we have read the strong warnings against buying them. Whilst we are still considering the spoodle, we thought we should also ask for advice as to whether there is another breed that would be just as appropriate (and my fiancee has asked me to add 'just as cute').

    Does anyone have any advice as to what breeds we should be considering?

    Thanks so much,

    Paul

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    Lagotto Romagnolo, Portugese Water Dog, Irish Water Spaniel, or Tibetan Terrier. Personally I would go Tibetan - most pet owners have the coat clipped shorter than a show dog, but clipping to some extent will be required in any low shedding breed or crossbred.

    A smaller breed but probably even more suited is a Tibetan Spaniel - fantastic with kids, and real characters.

    Or the rare and unrecognised but lovely Australian breed - Murray Valley Curly Coat Retriever.

    If you do seek a "Spoodle", be sure that the parents are tested clear of PRA which is a genetic disease that can be carried by both Cockers and Poodles, and causes early onset, incurable degenerative blindness. Some breeders of crossbreds do screen for diseases and produce quality pets.

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    A poodle?

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    I second a poodle, they come in different sizes and colours.

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    I also wonder why you wouldn't just get a purebred poodle? I love poodles and don't get where their seemingly bad reputation comes from...

    But I think the Lagottos look and sound fantastic too, though I've never met one in real life. I remembered this post that I thoroughly enjoyed about someone's search for the ethical alternative for the the -oodle. http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...tml#post169266

    And how great that your dog will be able to have playdates when you are at work!

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    I love the Tibetan Spaniel. They are now a breed I recommend to people who work and cannot always offer everyday exercise who don't mind a bit of coat.

    The Terrier is more busy. One of my training clients has the Tibetan Terrier, very smart but does require regular training and exercise or she becomes noisy and destructive.

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    Miniature Poodle

    I have 2, one is 8.5kg the other is 11kg
    Height is 14 and 16 inches.

    Medium to long haired... Well, the bonus of a poodle is you get to choose how long or short you want the hair to be. You don't have to clip their faces either if you want the fuzzy teddy bear look. I know a lot of guys prefer this.

    Non-Shedding... Yup

    Intelligent... This varies from dog to dog. While some breeds overall are considered intelligent there are always exceptions. The human race is considered intillegent yet I know some complete morons.

    Good with children... Same as above, it varies from dog to dog. I have one poodle who likes children while the other absolutely adores them and will not leave a kids side if he sees one.

    Exercise... Brody will run literally until he vomits.

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    I don't really get the Tibetan Spaniel suggestion though. They don't look anything like a spoodle? And don't they shed?

    And I also wanted to add that everyone likes the idea of an intelligent dog, but they are usually harder work. My last dog wasn't particularly smart, but she was extremely loyal and wasn't very creative when it came to alleviating boredom, which I thought was a definite bonus. My current dog likes to show off her smarts. Like when I got a new tub with lid to keep our shoes away from her and found all our footwear at the front door when I came home the first day I used it. Cute, but also highly annoying.

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    i second the poodle option.

    My neighbour has a spoodle and it kills small birds in the back yard and barks at everything all the time. Then again he has no idea how to train it and doesn't want my help. Not that my dog is perfectly behaved all the time either. At least she doesn't kill anything and stops barking when I ask her to.

    I would also suggest a bedlington terrier. Though they're not all that big on exercise. They don't mind a casual walk around the farm.

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    If you do seek a "Spoodle", be sure that the parents are tested clear of PRA which is a genetic disease that can be carried by both Cockers and Poodles, and causes early onset, incurable degenerative blindness. Some breeders of crossbreds do screen for diseases and produce quality pets.
    This. Also please ensure that the Cocker parent has been tested clear for FN (Familial Nephropathy), a fatal kidney disease. You've also indicated that you want a non-shedding dog, Cockers do shed and there is no guarantee that you'll have a non-shedding puppy. Good luck!
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 08-06-2012 at 02:47 PM. Reason: fixed up the quote tags

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