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    I will always go for later. I like 18-24 months for the large and giant breeds, that should mean all the growth-plates are closed. Less likely to get all those ortho problems related to early desexing........

    Some vets throw the cancer fear into people, but really that is not the reason to do early desexing..it is worthwhile for the 5 year plus desexing, hence a lot of breeders desex bitches after a certain time.

    Large dog can get osteoporosis if the hormones are stopped too early, just like happens in women when they have early menopause or have a hysterectomy. I have had a couple of Rescue newfies who were early desex's and they had huge problems. You can always find an argument to follow a certain age to desex. I think many vets and rescue groups now just want to prevent unwanted puppies, which I do understand, but it is no reason to frighten people into desexing their pets..there are responsible pet-owners too, Who are able to prevent litters

    Is the dog from a Breeder, surely they have some suggestions? I have bitches and a dog here and no accidental puppies, it takes some effort, but is not impossible

    Mind you that said if you are someone unable to cope with an un-desexed dog, I agree it should be done before the first season......
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    I had my girl desexed at 6 months, but maybe should have waited a bit longer. At about 7-8 months she started leaving a bit of a damp patch when she got up from sleeping, and vet said this could have resulted from early desexing (gee, good advice after advising to desex at 6 months) but thank goodness it's stopped now and I hope that's the end of it.

    If I'd known then what I know now I would have waited till closer to 12 months old.

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    For doggy incontinence - you can get treatments for that (drugs) that work fairly well.

    There's a possiblity my dog will need something when she's older because of the early desex, but so far so good.

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    Thanks for the great advice

    The breeder only asked if she was being desexed. Which, she will be. When I purchased her I actually thought they did it early like cats.
    Ill giver her breeder a call and see what he suggests also. Im all about informed decisions

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    18 months i desex my rotties. This ensures the bones can develop well enough to support the dog.
    They dont fill out till 3yrs rotties, a long puppyhood.

    And please bear in mind, in other countries, they dont desex at all. Its unusual in england to desex a dog for eg, wasnt till i migrated here that i would ever of considered it. Never had any issues with rotties that are not desexed in past.

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    This has been thoroughly researched by Chris Zinc of John Hopkins University in Baltimore. She established that dogs that are desexed before their growth plates are matured will have issues later in life including a much higher chance of cruciate ligament ruptures.
    She recommends not desexing small dogs before 9 months, medium sized dogs before they are 12 months and large breed dogs before they are 18 months old.
    I would rather go with proven scientific facts than vets opinion.
    As an aside, I wonder if anybody has ever bothered to challenge the shelters and foster groups on this. It seems to me that they are setting dogs and owners up for huge medical bills, and the pain and discomfort of a major op with their insistance of an immediate, early age desexing.
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    I desex my females between 6 and 11 months old. They are all high energy sport and working dogs and never had any problems except one I allowed to get overweight.

    The ones I had done at 6 months lived to old age with no ortho problems. Breeding for good structure and keeping the dog lean to me is a more important factor. Straight stifles and over weight is a one way ticket often to cruciate problems. I know a number of entire dogs that have done their cruciates for this reason.

    It is very rare for some breeds of dogs to do a cruciate regardless of their desexing status. I think a lot of trials were done on labradors and I dont know if weight was taken into consideration as often desexed bitches are more overweight than entire bitches. I know a lot of top agility dogs desexed at 6 -8 months, mainy Border collies etc and they dont seem to have problems.

    However I wouldnt desex my bitch before 6 months. 6-8 months is what I would aim for.

    Shelters are protecting against the opps litter of which there are many as people cannot always be relied on to desex or manage their dogs.
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    It depends on the breeds..you cannot compare kelpies, BC's, Aussies and the like to Rotties, mastiffs and newfies........Totally different bone growths and such
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    Breeding for good structure and keeping the dog lean to me is a more important factor. Straight stifles and over weight is a one way ticket often to cruciate problems. I know a number of entire dogs that have done their cruciates for this reason.
    I do very much agree with this in general terms, and many skeletal probems are related to poor conformation - which can effect dogs of any breed, and particularly many crossbreds.

    But I also agree with Newfsie. The large and giant breeds are a different kettle of fish growth wise. For example my breed don't finish maturing until they're about four.

    If at all possible, with a Rottie, I would err on the side of later, for growth reasons. Just as long as she can be managed if she comes into season.

    This is the battle that shelters face, desex early and risk possible health problems, or wait and encounter untold extra unwanted litters as a result. And that in itself creates medical and welfare problems. Much as many dog owners can manage their dogs responsibly, we all know there are great multitude who cannot (or don't bother). Early desexing is considered the lesser of two evils.

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    I'm WIthSean & Newfsie..
    With large breeds I would not even consider
    desexing until at least anywhere from 18 months..
    My vet is all for this also as the big breeds need to mature
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