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    Some people in the US live in apartments. Get up - leave for work at 7 - dog in crate - get home at 5 let the dog out - go to bed at 10 - put the dog in. it's horrible IMO.

    Also choker chains should be worn up around the dogs ears - that is where they are intended to be used. A short sharp effective jerk using them there can be useful - however, there are better things to use that are less dangerous and work to build up a rapport between dog and owner - as opposed to breeding obedience for the sake of obedience.

    I did a trial once - and only once. I had cappy on a flat collar and people were seriously asking me - how do you control him on a flat collar? If you need a collar to control a dog, you need to think about where your training is at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    Some people in the US live in apartments. Get up - leave for work at 7 - dog in crate - get home at 5 let the dog out - go to bed at 10 - put the dog in. it's horrible IMO.
    Crating dogs for 18 hours a day isn't just a US thing Occy. It's fairly common in Europe and happens in Australia as well. Friend in Vic. went to buy a toy breed show pup from a top kennel that said all their dogs were house pets. Well they certainly lived in the house. The family room was full of crates, some stacked on top of each other. The dogs were let out in relays for brief exercise periods and the rest of the time they were crated. Very sad.

    As for chokers you know how I feel about them. I haven't used one since I saw an obedience trainer kill a Bulldog by rough use of choker during a class. And that was over 30 years ago.

    I usually teach the basics off lead in the house and garden. Works well for me.

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    What is the crate thing? ( I need to get out from under my rock more often)

    I used to use a choker on Kimba, I had a thread about it in training. I tried everything but that was the only thing she responded to.
    She's now Chain free and fairly obedient. Still has her moments though...

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    I am on an American forum and it is really good. I have found them to be friendly and helpful. BTW, I like the count to a million thread...great fun.
    The more people I meet, the more I like my dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    I'm a Bub hub member too LOL I don't post there too much though because a couple of members there run another forum which is down right nasty and have nothing to do with kids but more to do with, who's the biggest bully in town they even refer to Bub hub and Bub crap or something like that and a couple of them are moderators there... go figure.. all too weird for me.
    I'd much prefer genuine people who are "you get what you see" types.. it saves confusion then LOL

    I'm a bub hubber too! lol

    Sharoo..I thought that might have been you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    You need to pick the fights worth fighting.

    Crates for example are excellent and I would never be without one - however I think the Americans in general overdo it - 18 hrs in a crate is unfair.
    Yes, I recently had a debate about this very point on an American Pug forum. The things is, these people are lovely caring dog owners, it is a culture thing though.

    They have come to accept crating as the norm. This will possibly happen here too and I notice more and more people advising that people crate their dogs.
    A pessimist sees the glass as half empty;
    An optimist sees the glass as half full;
    A realist just finishes the damn thing and refills it.

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    Crates are great - wouldn't have been able to do rescue without one

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    Yes, I also utilise crates, but they are only ever temporary.
    A pessimist sees the glass as half empty;
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    A realist just finishes the damn thing and refills it.

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    aye

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