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    Hi all

    My neighbour got a dog about two years ago from a petshop, it's one of those ugly cross breeds that are cute puppies.

    And he's got no idea about dog training, frequently scolds his dog when it barks, scolds it and HITS it when it finally comes when he calls it. Calls it over and over - ie its name is "broken".

    And now they have a second puppy.

    I just heard the "introduction". Went something like "be gentle" - how can the first dog possibly understand that? And both were off lead and in the older dog's back yard. So naturally the older dog having fiercely guarded the back yard for a couple of years now and having no doggy social skills - not allowed to play with other dogs, - it attacks the puppy. and the puppy squeals.

    And my neighbour scolds his dog for attacking the other dog.

    So many mistakes and behaviours that will make things worse not better.

    But as some of you occasionally notice - my people skills are not always the best. And I do know that a lot of people do not like unsolicited advice or help. My neighbour - despite getting to watch what I do with my dog every night - including how I deal with the barking and recall - has not asked me for help or advice about anything dog related. He knows I go to club and dog training seminars and yet he doesn't ask. And I've offered a couple of times to have play dates with his dog but it's a bit too late now, it doesn't play nice.

    Do you suppose if I lend them Turid's Calming Signals dvd - that would help? Or maybe SG's crate games?

    Or is it best left alone - although I know the dogs will suffer if I don't do something.

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    Unfortunately, if he doesn't ask for help or display interest in attempting to fix the problem (which is his own creation, mind), there isn't much you can do. You could always tactfully offer to maybe take the dog to training or bring him along if you have a decent enough relationship with him? Men in particular can be very stubborn when it comes to actually admitting they've done something wrong in regards to raising a dog. He sounds like a dud, though. Poor dogs.

    If all else fails, maybe some hefty vet bills after the dogs have a fight will get him moving.


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    It is sad, but just like with any problem, people have to admit first to having a problem......They cannot learn unless they want to learn

    I do one to one private lessons, private group class training and I am a volunteer Instructor at our Kennel Club......Some people even come to the Kennel Club to "fix" their dogs, but still won't take any advise, help or instruction. And they came to the Kennel Club. I don't find the same wit the Private lessons, for which we charge a lot more. the people who come to those are eager to learn, maybe not always correct or successful, but they try.

    Sometimes I think things offered for free (or cheap) are the least taken notice of, go figure.

    I get a lot of business by people seeing our dogs work in Demo's and walk with us. but if this guy lives next door and can see the handle you have on your dogs and still does not ask for help. You just will have no luck getting through to him. Which is sad for the puppy/dog. And yes it might end up being a huge vet fee, or worst case scenario. And most likely they still will not learn from that
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    Your neighbour is just an idiot. I feel sorry for both the older dog and the new pup!

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    I feel sorry for both the older dog and the new pup
    Me too.

    They even got bark busters in - which is expensive but they were not willing to do the clownlike stuff bark busters ask for.

    Newfsie - you might be right. I was thinking of dropping Mark Singer's contact details in their mail box... That might work better with a bloke. And I might be able to get through to the partner or one of her kids.

    It's sad - they're also all smokers and one of the kids has major health problems that seem to me to be aggravated by the smoking and not cleaning up after their dog. Ugh.

    At least I can bitch and vent in here with out upsetting them.

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    Bitch away, it would upset and frustrate me too. We can't fix the problems of the world though no matter how we would like to.
    Nothing you can do really unless asked.
    He doesn't seem to have absorbed much from watching you. Gakkkk. Poor dogs.

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    The Blunt Response

    Who's problem is it Hya?

    You can either stick your nose in and be prepared to have it bitten off, ....or.... Learn to turn off.

    If there are concerns about animal welfare now or in the future, then advise the relevant authorities and live with the consequences.



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    Good gravy Hya...

    Can understand your frustration, but as things are, the neighbours don't sound promising for success.

    Perhaps as others have suggested, continue to tactfully offer guidance with the dvd, books etc.

    Don't laugh, but have you considered asking if they could join you for a walk, or even you take theirs? They may notice an improvement and warm to the idea their dogs would benefit with outside help. .................Could be a win win result...

    I had a dog that was always going berko at my dogs and the elderly owner would yell and smack it with a newspaper. One day while walking past I simply said "Can I take him with us?", the owner was gobsmacked, we ended up talking and broke the ice. Told me they loved the dog but it had many bad habits and also their lack of ability to walk him. She also commented how well behaved my dogs were....They were just standing quietly, so I guess I looked like a grey haired Cesar Millan in her eye's


    Long story short, the dog bloody loved coming for walks with mine and was less a problem afterwards.
    Anyhow, I think she died as a "For Sale" sign went up and the dog was never seen again...
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    It's a little bit my problem - because we now have a very yappy dog with equally yappy owners next door and sometimes my dog gets blamed (but more often she gets mistook for completely silent instead of fairly quiet).

    I might see if they want a couple of dvds, maybe Lesley Nelson's really reliable recall, and Turids. My dog calmed down just watching that. Taking their dog for a walk might help too - if it doesn't try to attack Frosty first. But they often see me going for walk and don't seem interested in coming too.

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    It's sad but what - maybe 95% of the dog owner population will always say "What the hell is wrong with this dog?!" rather than saying "What am i doing wrong here?" :-(

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