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    Ok baz has been geting worse now it that bad evey time I get on him he jump in to a canter and starts to buck not little bucks big ones he's bucked me of 10times this week and my bum is sore as now mum has been forcing me to ride him or she will sell him and I don't whant that I love baz so much but now it gone to far he atack my little sister And I mean full on stacked her reared up and try to strike her with his hoofs now I just don't whant to ride him any more but I'm being force to one day he going to hurt me or my sister I don't know what to do

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    Sometimes horses do that when they're sore. Ie riding hurts them so they toss anyone who gets on. And some horses do that because they have something wrong in the head. We had to get a very inbred horse put down because it started attacking people. Though we did like our killer attack guard horse, it just got way too dangerous to keep.

    I know what your mum is like with vets, but you might get an idea if you check along his back and down his shoulders and hips for sore spots. Gently though. If he flinches or moves away - he's sore. You may also want to try some lunging or just working in the round yard or watching how he moves in the paddock for soundness.

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    We do a lot of re-training of horses here at home and there are several reasons why horses often buck. We check their back first, we use a tennis ball and go all over their back with it. My hubby does some horse chiropractic too, so we often find some pain. Be it in the shoulders, back or neck

    Often it is the saddle...A lot of people ride with saddles that do not fit their horse properly, or even ones with broken trees. Sometimes some extra saddle pads can fix a saddle that does not fit well.Twist your saddle to check the tree.

    The fact that your horse chooses to go into the canter by himself, does not sound like his is back-pain involved.........horses with back pain often will not want to go into a canter. But something might pinch when he does go into the canter to make him buck, check the girth closely and the saddle blanket.

    Horses that are not cantering correctly......."out behind, the wrong lead......Also often put in a buck. But that is often only a single buck.

    Now don't get mad, because I have not seen you ride.....but sometimes a person with a rough seat can make a horse buck. The person's seat causes discomfort and the horse want the person off.

    Just bad manners......... You say Baz goes into a canter. Do you mean, you have not asked for it? And he just goes without being asked. It could be a learned habit and he has learned he can get you off.

    We often get horses here that have just no manners and are "in charge".........We start first with basic ground-work and check their motion forward, sideways and back-wards. this often tells us how they are.

    Are you near any people you know who would have a quick look?

    And seeing a horse run free in a round-yard will also tell you a lot about if there is pain and their attitude. Horses especially need to respect their owners. Because if you see horses work in their herd, respect is very important.

    Horse psychology is quite different to dog psychology. And horses are very sensitive to how they are treated. And sometimes the people who love their horses the most have the most problems with them.

    As I said I have not seen you around your horse, but just from working with many owners and their horses, it can sometimes just be something very basic.......



    Just take care and do not get hurt
    Last edited by newfsie; 12-12-2011 at 06:48 AM.
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    Thank newf I think it the No manners one we had him looked at the saddle dose fit proply and it not broken and wen he moves it looks like he's flying he's perfect in every way but the attitude his canter was smove as silk that was before my angle transformed in to the devall when he was 3 he put the trainer in a comer for 3weeks After that thay put him in a paddock and that were he stayed end till we got him wen he was 6 unbroken Broken him in he's been retrained that meny times it not funny any more and in 2008 I broke my leg after he bucked me of and he will do it agen anyday and I olny got back in the saddle year ago I was so afrade that he will kill me till I got back in the saddle he was so good for me at the start now there this devill who trys to hurt me wen im in the saddle and I get my dad to
    Make me a round yard too it just sad that he's like this to me I just whant my old boy back

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    "Retrained many times" does not sound good.....horses are very forgiving, but if they have had too many trainers, confusion reigns.

    We have one at home now, whom we will never sell, because when he came to us he was a bucker and very worried. Hubby re-trained him and he is beautiful, but we feel we would let him down if he wet the new ownership/trainer again. So Doc is with us forever. Mind you so are all of the others, but Doc was not planned to stay. Many Trainers is not good in a horses' history.

    It might be a good idea to stay off him. There are many things you can do with horses, to help them re-train and gain confidence and build a rapport, without getting into the saddle. Ground-work when done kindly and correctly can really teach horses to be respectful and well mannered. It sounds like your horse is not really safe to ride. Is there anyone who can help you with him. Training horses requires sensitivity and kindness, which I am afraid is not that common in the Horse-Training world. There are way to many Macho people around, who have a tough image to keep.

    Horses, even though they live in the moment. Do have an incredible memory of people and what people have done to them. We know that from getting some horses back again after long times (even ten years) when we are told they are bad and dangerous and they get to our place and just become like how they were. It is one reason why we now never train horses without the Rider. The Rider and the Horse need to be trained together, otherwise it is too confusing for the horse to go back to their Rider. And we often need to re-train the Rider. To us it is all about the Horse, so sometimes what we have to say, may not be what the Rider/owner wants to hear.

    Anyway, just be careful.........You do not want to get injured
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