View Poll Results: Do You think this is child abuse or punishment

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Thread: Is This Child Abuse?

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    Default Is This Child Abuse?

    The Way I was brought up and the way i am bringing up my children I seriosusly dont think this is that bad.

    I dont know If I would do it but do i think its worth being charged over NO WAY!

    Jurors see video of US mum punishing son

    What are your thoughts?

    I know Way not dog related but stemming from recent Thread!
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    Hot sauce? Sure as hell that's child abuse. It's akin to burning for a little boy's mouth. Would you consider forcing a child to touch a burning hot plate abuse? Then hot sauce AND a cold shower because he "acting up" in school?

    I wonder what else she's done to say she's "tried every method".

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    Yes, tha is defnite child abuse. That poor little bugger. First he is born into abject poverty, then abandoned by his parents and now in the hands of a child abuser.

    The child should be removed from her care. She's probably already severely scarred him emotionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    The child should be removed from her care. She's probably already severely scarred him emotionally.
    Wow really? I cant hear anything thats being said on the tape, being at work but I mean the way I took it is that he was a troubled child and she had tried all "usually" punishments and nothing worked.

    I do soap in the mouth, I dont see that being much better then Hot sauce to be honest. The only reason I wouldnt do the hot sauce thing is because I am super sensitive to spicy/ hot foods so i wouldnt do it to my kids.
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    Here is the text from what was said;

    It shows the 36-year-old mother talking forcefully to the boy in a hallway in the family's home.

    "Why did you lie to me? Does it work to lie to me?" she asks the child.

    Beagley asks the boy what happens when he lies.

    "I get hot sauce," the crying boy replies.

    The video shows Beagley leading the boy into a bathroom, where he sits on the counter next to the sink and she squirts hot sauce in his mouth.

    "Don't spit it," she says.

    "Are lies supposed to be out of your mouth?" she yells, her arms braced on either side of him.

    When he admits to lying, she allows him to spit out the hot sauce.

    She then explains to the child that he is going to get in a cold shower for lying about misbehaviour at school: wriggling in his seat and sword-fighting with pencils.

    The video did not show the child in the shower, but the boy's screams can be heard.

    "Listen to your teacher," she says. "You are to do what you are told."
    She claims that she has tried other methods and nothing works. It is obvious she has also done the sauce before if you read the above. Then the cold shower on top while he is screaming? Seriously, what the hell is this big fat ugly bully teaching the child!
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    Hot sauce burns, soap just tastes bad.

    I would hazard a guess that she didn't go through all the "usual" punishments. Seriously, hot sauce and a cold shower for a child playing up at school (wriggling in his seat and playing with pencils)? Totally unnecessary. I hope she gets hit hard and he gets placed somewhere where he'll actually get cared for. Absolutely disgusting

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    I can't see the cold shower being all that bad, cold sucks but is generally only cold for a few seconds before your body adjusts to it.

    Hot sauce though is definitely over the top, soap in the mouth sure, like SS said it tastes bad but doesn't burn like hot sauce.

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    Sorry BL, but by putting this thread up you wanted it commented on. I do not believe soap, hot sauce or anything of the sort should be put in a childs mouth as punishment, neither do I believe in scolding. I think they are all abuse.

    I punish my children if they act up by taking away something that they enjoy having. Ie, toys, or instead of being able to have dinner, bath then watch their shows before bed they have dinner, bath and straight to bed. They cannot go to the park for two weeks, or something along those lines that show that if they act up, be naughty etc they wont have the privaledges that they enjoy.

    I think this way of discipline shows them what it wil bel like in real life as they grow and age into adulthood. As an adult, if you act up at work you will lose your job (losing money and a nice way of life), If you treat your friends badly they will no longer talk to you. Thus the consequences of acting up is losing things that you enjoy having around.

    I dont believe that burning a childs mouth, soaping it, or pushing them into a cold shower is going to teach them anything about life, it just makes them FEAR acting up around you. I dont push fear into my children.

    Anyways, each to their own. If you believe that your way works thats your choice, they are your kids. But this woman in my eyes is blatantly an abuser.

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    I guess it shows how different we were all raised and how different we see life in general!

    See When I see a mother a mother smack her kid at the shops I dont blink an eye, but when i see a little rat kids having a tanty at the shops and the mother standing there for 20 mins trying to reason, threaten and beg i think Honestly, your an idiot, smack the kid and take him home!

    My sister's friend is one of the Super nanny attempting people, her son is a rude, smart mouth little sod.
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    Well, shows how different kids are also, if my child chucks a tanty i say nothing i just continue walking.... and they just stop and follow.

    I dont give a reaction to tantrums, Thats what they are after, they want attention. So i have never given it, whether it be good or bad attention, they get nothing from me and they know it.

    This has worked for me, not saying it will on others..

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