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    She talked about starting a stud & I thought there was bigger considerations than a name in todays finaincal climate & with all the stud closures due to bank forclosure, daught, flood & fire, I would feel very wrong if I did not share what I know about the industry.
    I never put her down just asked some questions anyone starting a breeding programe should be able to answer.
    I can see how others are worried though because no finaical situation can have that fast a turn around & know it's a stable enough to start this sort of bussiness. Again I am not being mean just practical & very honest.
    Do you know what it cost to get the vet out in the middle of the night for a foaling?
    My vet bill for the horses alone without any other animals would easy be 8 grand a year. And I am lucky to be able to do alot of the AI & scanning myself.
    I am truely sorry if your upset by my or any op replies but again I have to say I would feel very wrong if I didn't share the pitfalls I know of.
    Yep foals are adorable & seeing your goals start to take shape in your breedings is great but the having to hang on to youngstock so long it drains all profit sux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    I reccomend going & visiting as many studs as possible & ask the hard questions about monthly costs of vet care & feed alone.
    I have breed horses all my life as has generation of my family, we have NEVER made any money as vet care, fee, transport & competing costs are huge.
    I am not against poeple starting stud I just think you need to do alot of reserch first.
    Also established studs are closing down due to being unable to sell enough young stock to keep going. The horse market is in a real slump at the moment & I'd advise even the very exsperainced to cut down on the amount of foals breed over the next couple of years as the market is flooded with stud closures, drought, flood & fire sales.
    The welsh cob market is a little stronger than some but I can direct you to nurmous stud website that still have some of last years yearlings & all of this years foals for sale at much reduced rates.
    If your serous you'd need to import new bloodlines so your stud can offer something different to all the others out there & do you have any idea the cost of an import.
    Will you need to pay for training or are you honestly exsperainced enough to be breaking your own foals to halter,trim, rug etc & your own 2/3 year olds to saddle.
    Both breeds you have chossen are very slow maturing & really should not be under saddle till 3 & sometimes even 4 for the Andies.
    Can you afford to keep them that long?
    I am in no way having a go at you & would say the same things to anyone who posted this thread as I see the fail outs daily at the moment with the eccomy & climate the way it is.
    I just ask you think VERY VERY hard about this.
    I'm not doing this just to go googoo over some foals. I have thought very hard about this, I've done my research and I know what I am doing. I will be doing the work, breaking, handling, showing. I have already broken horses before. I am already training young ones. I know about the slow maturing. I wouldn't break ANY horse before three anyway, regardless of breed. I'm not in it to make the money, obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be going into breeding. We are doing it to improve the breed first and foremost. We have bred before, we know what we are doing. We have more experienced breeders on hand for assistance if anything goes wrong.

    I asked for name suggestions. Nothing else. If I wanted to have my every motive questioned by a person who knows absolutely nothing about the amount of research already done, my knowledge of breeding, vet bills and horses, I would ask for it.

    Like I said, circumstances have changed. I'm not going into them. Our financial situation is our business.

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    Did not question your motives............
    Sorry to have offended you............
    I am a straight talker thats all.......
    Yes your money is your buisness no doubt there.........
    good luck with your stud............
    So what bloodlines are you going to import?
    What welsh lines do you like???????

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    I really love the horses at the Cwmkaren stud, so will be starting our search there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittany View Post
    I'm not doing this just to go googoo over some foals. I have thought very hard about this, I've done my research and I know what I am doing. I will be doing the work, breaking, handling, showing. I have already broken horses before. I am already training young ones. I know about the slow maturing. I wouldn't break ANY horse before three anyway, regardless of breed. I'm not in it to make the money, obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be going into breeding. We are doing it to improve the breed first and foremost. We have bred before, we know what we are doing. We have more experienced breeders on hand for assistance if anything goes wrong.

    I asked for name suggestions. Nothing else. If I wanted to have my every motive questioned by a person who knows absolutely nothing about the amount of research already done, my knowledge of breeding, vet bills and horses, I would ask for it.

    Like I said, circumstances have changed. I'm not going into them. Our financial situation is our business.

    Good on you Brittany, I agree, your financial business is yours alone.

    I also get a bit irked at times when advice not asked for is given. I think people assume others havent done any research previous to asking the question you want to ask which is pretty rude when you think about it. Not actually specifically meaning anyoen on this site, just that it is something that happens on all forums really.

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    Yes they have some decent stock.......
    What size is there dark bay stallion, he's nice?
    Not as keen on the chesnut boy though, very long in the back for a cob in my book anyway.
    So are you buying young stock from them or using their stallions?
    What strong welsh mare lines do you like?
    My taste is quite out fashion, I like heaps of good flat bone & a horse that looks like it can do a whole days work. I like a bit of feather, well set thickish neck & hate how alot these days have steep rumps & are calf kneed. I will post some of the lines I like tomorrow as I am having troubles uploading pics today & would like to add pics of the horses matching each bloodline.

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    I'm looking at a black 2yo filly by the bay stallion. I much prefer the bay. I want to buy young stock, show them for a few years, get them out there, break in, and then breed. If I adjust the lighting in the stables, it should encourage the coats to keep short in the winter, and if I'm correct, will adjust their seasons.... I might be wrong though, I need to find out some more about it. If I adjust their season, then I might be able to have a foal at foot for the next year. I dunno just yet. Anyway, we won't be breeding straight away. She'll be shown in hand first and get all the important work done with her.

    I like the heavy looking horses, big with a bit of feather, free, strong, high action, really throwing themselves out, with a real nice pony head, full of character. I like the big bums I really like this stallion Hendrewen Welsh Cobs. and thats what I want to aim for with the colts. I want to breed the bigger cob, I think there is a market for the larger cobs well over fourteen/fifteen hands, for riding. It's hard to find a good riding cob that is big too.

    Still looking for a mare line that I really like. With the mares, I like them more refined, nowhere near as chunky but still with the action. I like a well set on neck, a good sloping shoulder and a big front, but not too big. Plenty of room for a healthy heart and lungs, like you said they need to look like they can do a good days work. They need to have a nice, pretty head, with a good kind eye, big and expressive.

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    I like this type of mare, who also happens to be the granddam of the black filly I'm looking at :Mares

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    I love MR Tom the stallion in your post, am at work but had to just say that.

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    My friends stallion is called Toby and her stud is called Jatoby Park.
    You could decide on something like that when you get your stallion.
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