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    Count me in.

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    Wow.

    Just had a hugely informative email from Brian Green. It goes like this:

    Thank you for your comments and interest in this matter.


    Hon Bryan Green MP

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    What a politician

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    LOL. I'm in the process of sending an email.... but I don't really know what to say, LOL. Any help?

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    Erm erm erm what did I say?

    Concerned Tasmanian voter strongly urge you to consider the proposed ban pointless and unacceptable cruelty more ethical food production methods Tasmania has the chance to set a precedent please show leadership put an end to the barbaric practice of sow confinement

    This is why I like those form emails you just add your name to! Don't worry Boxer, I struggle writing in birthday cards - just get your point across!

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    I somehow doubt it'll actually get banned. Factory farmed animals are kept this way due to demand. Less room = more pigs = more meat for consumers (don't shop for meat products at Coles or Woolies for this reason ).

    The methods for keeping battery chickens was revised a while ago because McDonald's (yup, McDonalds) intervened. While not perfect, battery chickens in Australia now have a minimum amount of room per hen, and are mentally stimulated (previously they weren't).

    Perhaps have a look at the buyers of the meat (Coles, Woolies, etc., etc) and see if you can do anything through that way. Badgering politicians has never really worked in regards to factory farming.

    Personally, I find veal farming far more cruel then pig farming. Have a look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerini View Post
    LOL. I'm in the process of sending an email.... but I don't really know what to say, LOL. Any help?
    Anything! You can keep it short if you like, asking him to ban the use of sow stalls. He won't actually read the email himself but as long as they keep coming in he will know that people actually care about the way pigs are treated.

    Quote Originally Posted by silvershadowwolf24 View Post
    I somehow doubt it'll actually get banned. Factory farmed animals are kept this way due to demand. Less room = more pigs = more meat for consumers (don't shop for meat products at Coles or Woolies for this reason ).

    The methods for keeping battery chickens was revised a while ago because McDonald's (yup, McDonalds) intervened. While not perfect, battery chickens in Australia now have a minimum amount of room per hen, and are mentally stimulated (previously they weren't).

    Perhaps have a look at the buyers of the meat (Coles, Woolies, etc., etc) and see if you can do anything through that way. Badgering politicians has never really worked in regards to factory farming.

    Personally, I find veal farming far more cruel then pig farming. Have a look at it.
    Don't underestimate the power of the people I say! The thing is we HAVE to try! Especially as the animal advisory committee has actually recommended it. There's no point being defeatist about it. We have to try for the pigs' sake. Saying it comes down to demand is like saying pet shops should be able to sell puppy mill pups because there is a demand for it. There may be a demand for it but that doesn't make it right!

    We can make a difference by buying free range bacon instead of factory farmed, which is what I do.

    I know veal farming is cruel, all factory farming is, and IMO every animal deserves our backing. Calves, pigs, chickens, turkeys....

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvershadowwolf24 View Post
    I somehow doubt it'll actually get banned. Factory farmed animals are kept this way due to demand. Less room = more pigs = more meat for consumers (don't shop for meat products at Coles or Woolies for this reason ).
    True but it's in the headlines now and we have to give it our full backing. A similar thing came up in Tas a while back about battery farming and their reasoning for not supporting a ban was that demand would just shift to the mainland. No doubt the same cop out excuse will be used again.

    Quote Originally Posted by silvershadowwolf24 View Post
    Personally, I find veal farming far more cruel then pig farming. Have a look at it.
    Both are extremely cruel but pig farming is far more widespread. Which might make veal farming an easier target

    If you must buy meat, try to buy free range. Lilydale free range chicken is popping up in the supermarket now, I'd love to see them selling necks and frames for the dogs!

    My solution is go veg!

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    Lol, you'd be better e-mailing Bryan Green's father, wouldn't you?
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    I didnt know what to say,so i just kind of had a brain f@rt and sprouted a heap of stuff he will either take offense to,or think im a looney.

    Dear Sir,

    I am writing to ask you to please ban the use of sow stalls on the basis of unacceptable cruelty. Are we not animals of a sort also? How would you like for someone to lock you in a cage months on end and being unable to move around? I know that i wouldnt like it one bit,and i am urging you to please ban this practice.

    The UK and parts or Europe have already taken this leap and banned such practices due the cruelty of it,will you be the first man to stand up and take charge,admitting that this is wrong? Or will you be a 'man' who will sit back and do nothing,leaving it for someone else to do as this is a matter that you believe doesnt concern you? Will you be a man and face this issue? Or an ostrich who will stick his head in the sand hoping that due the fact he cannot see the problem,that it isnt there or will go away?

    I urge you once again to ban this practice,face up to this and ban it. If you wish to look at it from a voters point of view,the banning of such a practice will ensure that you get the vote of every animal lover,people who have a deep sense of right and wrong,and many will look up to you should you do this. Should you ignore it,you will lose the votes of a great many people. The decision of right and wrong rests in your decision,and that decision could very well be the beginning or the end of your polictical career. Im hoping that your career is not over,and that you do the right thing.

    I thank you for your time,and looking forward to hearing of a decision.

    Sincerely

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    Loren, I'm not taking a defeatist point of view, I just think doing it this way is unlikely to work. Don't get me wrong, Ive done my part by sending an e-mail and I certainly do hope it comes into action.

    I don't really see how you got that I think pet shops should be able to sell puppies because there is a demand for them? There is a huge demand for pork and because of this, they are unlikely to stop factory farming any time soon. There is simply too much money to be made in the practice (and this is a big reason why free ranged farming, for 100% of the market, can never work). Think of cigarettes. There have been several campaigns to get them taken off the market, and none of them have succeeded, simply because they bring in so much profit.

    Another solution would be trying to make another meat more mainstream, such a kangaroo meat. Free ranged kangaroo farming is very viable at the moment, and will be for a very very long time. The theory is that if another meat is sought out, then another's market will decrease. That's the theory, at least.

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