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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    I'm with you DA - completely lost. I think people in general have a tendency to take things (including themselves on occasion!) far too seriously.

    Are we having fun yet or what??
    Perhaps some of us don't take ourselves seriously enough. My information and advice is valuable and often correct because I have experience and I seek information from sources like vets, or I have been there myself. What I have to say is worthwhile and some of the posters here - ESPECIALLY some newbies - waltz in and talk down GOOD advice and information.

    So how about - no - some of us are no longer having fun here because help isn't worth giving for all the crap that comes with it. I think I will just start PMing people when I have valuable info for them - why share it with those who already know it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    Perhaps some of us don't take ourselves seriously enough. My information and advice is valuable and often correct because I have experience and I seek information from sources like vets, or I have been there myself. What I have to say is worthwhile and some of the posters here - ESPECIALLY some newbies - waltz in and talk down GOOD advice and information.

    So how about - no - some of us are no longer having fun here because help isn't worth giving for all the crap that comes with it. I think I will just start PMing people when I have valuable info for them - why share it with those who already know it all
    That is true Occy, you have experience, but so do many others on here. Those experiences could differ, so who is right or wrong with their experiences?

    Vets too will disagree about things till the cows come home. I've seen that a lot. Now maybe Myf could say she hasn't seen vets disagree, so who is right or wrong, Myf or myself? Neither, we both have had different experiences.

    If ppl ask for advice, it's up to each and every one of us whether we give it - or not. The choice is ours. If ppl take the advice, great. If they don't, so what, maybe they found other advice more suitable, or more sensible, or more believable, or easier, or whatever...

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    My issue isn't with people who have a clue - it is with the majority who DON'T. However, that isn't what this is about. This is about people coming into threads and saying that such and such is right and everyone else is stupid, or their information worthless. Methinks much of what I have to say has gone over these peoples heads - going by some of the thanks given in this thread.

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    I can see where you're coming from, heck I'm guilty of doing exactly what you've described - one example that comes to mind is when an entertainment tv show is prescribed as a fix it all... Ie: Watch this and do what you see and it will fix the problem. Then I am not shy in any way in telling whoever is saying it that they are spouting crap, and that what they are suggesting is dangerous.

    In saying that, this is a public forum and what is good, solid information from you someone else may disagree with. If we can't voice our disagreement then what is the point of the forum? I have learned so much from people taking the time to explain their stance without insulting or being derogatory towards me.

    I like seeing where people disagree with each other and hearing the reasons why they disagree. I think it is brilliant. We are all different and we shouldn't be expected to hold our tongues when we disagree with someone just in case the first person doesn't like us disagreeing with them.

    Maybe it's just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    My issue isn't with people who have a clue - it is with the majority who DON'T. However, that isn't what this is about. This is about people coming into threads and saying that such and such is right and everyone else is stupid, or their information worthless. Methinks much of what I have to say has gone over these peoples heads - going by some of the thanks given in this thread.
    Did someone disregard your advice and the OP decided to go with the 2nd persons instead of yours?

    That's what it sounds like to me. Every person is different. Every person will agree or disagree with different people and sometimes it will be rude! We're all very passionate about our pets and we all have different perspectives. It is our diversity that make this an interesting place to be.

    What works for you won't necessarily work for the next person, and they are more likely to go with the advice that fits in with their beliefs, morals and ethics. Doesn't matter who gives that advice.

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    I get what you're saying Occy and that sort of thing is uncalled for. People can disagree with other people, it makes things interesting and it's great to hear other peoples POV but there's a huge difference between giving your own opinion and shooting down someone elses in the way you've described.
    It's unfair to tell someone that their idea is crap.

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    Thank god megan, I was starting to thunk I was speaking in tongues. This isn't just about me - I see it done to others all the time. One person has already said in this thread that it is why they don't post anymore.

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    Occy, I do agree. While you can have a different opinion, there is no need to put down other peoples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    My issue isn't with people who have a clue - it is with the majority who DON'T. However, that isn't what this is about. This is about people coming into threads and saying that such and such is right and everyone else is stupid, or their information worthless. Methinks much of what I have to say has gone over these peoples heads - going by some of the thanks given in this thread.
    Understand that and agree totally. I think I saw that just last night in a thread somewhere...someone saying one piece of advice was the only way to go or something like that. That's sad and narrow-minded IMHO.

    For instance, Ange and I disagree about a certain method of training. We discussed it at length to try and see the pro's and con's from the other's point of view. Don't know about Ange but I found the whole discussion interesting, informative and enjoyable.

    If we think something someone else has said is crap, surely we can be a little kinder and fairer in our responses? I know I am learning to - and if I can, a n y o n e c a n!!!

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    I think I've probably posted "I would never". Mind you, I've tried a lot of things I would never do again, ie they failed miserably as a useful technique. The most dramatic being the rolled up newspaper. My family have trained several dogs with occasional use of rolled up newspaper but when I tried it with Frosty, first I missed cos she's so good at dodging (bred for dodging cow kicks), and then she thought it was a fun variation of "tug" game. And she ate the newspaper roll - so massive fail there. And I would never try again with the newspaper roll on her.

    Anyway from time to time I will write stuff that will offend people, it's usually unintentional. Occasionionally I will feel frustrated that the same question gets asked over and over, sometimes by the same person - they asked, we answered, they asked again without having tried any of our suggestions. Now that's frustrating for us.

    Mostly I try to leave the threads I find "dumb" alone. That's not the only reason I'd leave a thread alone - sometimes the topic just doesn't interest me or it's too scary (for me) to look at (rescues usually), or I know nothing at all about the subject - though sometimes that doesn't stop me posting.

    Alls I know is I'm not going to get it right all the time.

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