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    Haha! Sorry, wrong choice of words! Masha has explained my thoughts perfectly - guys being dumped by chicks, etc, who dont think they are as good as 'edward'
    When I said "raised the bar" - I meant it as to say, raising it to such a level where girls are expecting guys to be like 'edward' IYKWIM.
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    That explains it, Demi. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masha View Post
    Yea. Twilight is similar to Disney, really. They both promote that a man has to be strong, handsome, a prince (well in Disney's case) and always has to save the day. While the woman is a damsel in distress. It brings back the women's movement by 50 years. *shakes head*
    doesn't matter if its 1600's or 2600's... A woman will always want her princess moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masha View Post
    Yea. Twilight is similar to Disney, really. They both promote that a man has to be strong, handsome, a prince (well in Disney's case) and always has to save the day. While the woman is a damsel in distress. It brings back the women's movement by 50 years. *shakes head*
    I disagree.

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    doesn't matter if its 1600's or 2600's... A woman will always want her princess moment.
    Well said Rebec. It sucks that chivalry, courtesy and general manners have basically gone out the window. How many of you can say that you have had a male open the car door for you - not once, but EVERY time? How many of you have had a gentleman open the door for you every time and allow you through first?

    I like those things, I think they should have a place in society. It's got nothing to do with the stronger or weaker sex, it has everything to do with politeness.

    How many have opened a door for the elderly, given them help when they need it? I've seen a woman my age ram into an elderly man and not help him to regain his feet after they knocked him over (I helped him in that case). When did this become acceptable?

    When did we turn into a society with no manners, patience or respect for anyone?

    I grew up being taught that a real man will always open doors for his girlfriend, wife, mother, sister, aunt etc, they will always say please and thank you when requesting something. They will always treat women with respect and women shall do the same for the men.

    TBH I cannot stand our society. It disgusts me, for so many other reasons, but these will do as a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    I disagree.



    Well said Rebec. It sucks that chivalry, courtesy and general manners have basically gone out the window. How many of you can say that you have had a male open the car door for you - not once, but EVERY time? How many of you have had a gentleman open the door for you every time and allow you through first?

    I like those things, I think they should have a place in society. It's got nothing to do with the stronger or weaker sex, it has everything to do with politeness.

    How many have opened a door for the elderly, given them help when they need it? I've seen a woman my age ram into an elderly man and not help him to regain his feet after they knocked him over (I helped him in that case). When did this become acceptable?

    When did we turn into a society with no manners, patience or respect for anyone?

    I grew up being taught that a real man will always open doors for his girlfriend, wife, mother, sister, aunt etc, they will always say please and thank you when requesting something. They will always treat women with respect and women shall do the same for the men.

    TBH I cannot stand our society. It disgusts me, for so many other reasons, but these will do as a start.
    IMO some of this is feminism gone too far.

    Its people thinking we can't have our cake and eat it too! If we want to be independent women who provide for ourselves and don't NEED a man to be the head of the household, provide for us, then we shouldn't need one to open the door for us either.

    I don't agree with that but I know its how a lot of people think.

    And as for manners...I HATE that manners are not emphasised enough in life. As a teacher in a state school I harped on about manners. My children ALL spoke nicely and treated each other with respect by the end of the year. But it saddens me that I, as the teacher, had to enforce this! Why arn't parents enforcing manners???

    As a child I was taught to say please and thank you, I was taught social ettiquite and its something I will be teaching my children when I have them!

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    agree with you entirely Angela

    I know my son will be taught how to be a gentleman and respect women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    IMO some of this is feminism gone too far.

    Its people thinking we can't have our cake and eat it too! If we want to be independent women who provide for ourselves and don't NEED a man to be the head of the household, provide for us, then we shouldn't need one to open the door for us either.

    I don't agree with that but I know its how a lot of people think.

    And as for manners...I HATE that manners are not emphasised enough in life. As a teacher in a state school I harped on about manners. My children ALL spoke nicely and treated each other with respect by the end of the year. But it saddens me that I, as the teacher, had to enforce this! Why arn't parents enforcing manners???

    As a child I was taught to say please and thank you, I was taught social ettiquite and its something I will be teaching my children when I have them!
    Hubby treats me with respect and I treat him with the same. He gives me the freedom to do the things I enjoy and I give him that very same freedom. I am independent, but I like to be treated as a lady. Just as I treat him as a gentleman (I expect him to behave that way too).

    I don't like the preconception that women have to be dependent on their men in order for the men to open doors and show common courtesy. Or rather what should be a common courtesy It's bull. Women can go out, work for themselves, earn their own money and live their own lives. Doesn't mean that men have the right to treat us like crap. Period.

    Just because a man opens a door for you and allows you to walk through first does not mean that you cannot do anything for yourself! What bloody lazy male came up with that idea?

    I don't need any man to provide for me, I don't need any man in my life for it to be complete, but BY OATH when they are in my life they will treat me as a lady, they will treat me with respect or they can darn well get out! Who says that opening a door for you means that you 'need' a man to provide for you? Stuff that!!

    I'm very passionate about this, sorry

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    great post Amy, good on you for teaching manners/respect in school. My mothers been teaching for 15+yrs and has almost had to take personal leave due to the actions/attitudes of some of her students.

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    Yep a lot of respect has gone out of the window - and while I think that feminism has given many males an excuse to be lazy, it has also been confusing for other men who still want to show respect and courtesy. I've heard quite a few stories from male friends over the years who have copped an earful of abuse because they've tried to be nice! Like opening a door for a female when going into a shop.

    I will always open a door for someone older than myself, when I used to catch buses I would offer my seat to the elderly or pregnant women. I managed to embarrass a few men this way...usually by commenting to the person that all the men must have broken legs! Funny how they'd then try to offer me THEIR seat!

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    lol greys they deserved to be embarrassed!

    I used to travel via train from Syd to Newcastle frequently, On one of these trips it was packed like sardines, only a few vacant seats here and there. A couple with a young child got on and looked around for seats then realised they would have to sit seperately at either end, I had a single seat beside me so I waited probably 2seconds to see if anyone else was going to move (a few others in the same position I was in) nope, nadda all too busy trying to look busy... I got up told them to take my seat and I will find somewhere else. They were shocked for a mili second then the little girl asked ' why is the lady moving daddy' his response was in an extra loud voice ' because there are still some good people left in this world hunny'

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