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    Just wondering if there are any Mums ( or Dadas) here that have to medicate thier children for learning problems? I'm not referring to just ADHD in a nut shell but across the whole spectrum.

    It seems we are about to embark on this road as much as I detest the thought.I have fought this for 3 years now and at one stage ourson was going ahead in leaps and bounds and we thought we'd been vindicated in our stubborn refusal to go the 'drug' route.

    But we moved and the patterns emerged all over again. This time round he appeared to be doing extremely well,appeared settled,seemed to really enjoy going to school and had brought home 2 merit awards in the first week,seemed to be getting along with his class mates,no fighting or angry behaviour etc. Apparently things slid pretty fast from then on....he was suspended on Thursday........again.........

    There isn't a great deal out there on the net , or should I say there isn't a great deal out there that I can get my head around without obtaining a couple of PhDs or from a parents view point.
    His father was placed on Ritlen( sp? and I know that things have progressed since then ) during school and he became quite an angry individual on it.He did more fighting than school work. I guess this might be one of the reasons I am quite apprehensive of medicating.My other main concern that my 'BJ' will no longer be my 'BJ',that he will somehow be too modified if you get what I'm trying to say.I want him to still be BJ.

    So any info appreciated
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    is he doing any behavioural therapy??

    the meds for adhd are quite different now and when combined with therapy can improve the childs behaviour and attention quite well. i think controlled and monitored medicating is the way to go and this is not just from a psychologist perspective but my mother is a teacher and has seen the huge improvments in children who have been medicated. they do not sit in a sedated heap, but the over stimulation problem and lack of focus is greatly improved as is their social life and learning abilities =)

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    Thanks Laura

    Yes,he's doing behavioural therapy through the school as well as some other support programs . The lack of focus is one of our greatest concerns and we hope to at least improve it enough for some descision making to get hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Thanks Laura

    Yes,he's doing behavioural therapy through the school as well as some other support programs . The lack of focus is one of our greatest concerns and we hope to at least improve it enough for some descision making to get hold.
    Has he actually been diagnosed Choppa, what you are describing could range from a mild form of epilepsy to Aspergers.
    I have 2 grandsons, one is on anphetamines to control his behaviour & the eldest who is now 21, my daughter refused to put him on medication, she braved it out not very succesfully I dont think. The only reason I answered you is because I am familiar with those problems in kids, thats before anyone jumps on and says i dont know what i'm talking about

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    Chop before you go down that route I would go speak to a dietician and see if maybe there were things that could be improved in that department before resorting to medication. I know that sometimes medication is the only way to go but I truly believe that there are kids with "issues" that are caused by the preservatives etc they consume. Sometimes Doctors are to quick to medicate without firstly seeing if there are other factors contributing to the behaviours.

    As you know we had lots of behavioural issues with oldest son a few years ago, his Dads workmates thought he was ADHD due to his hyperactivity and other behaviours, with the help of a councellor and diet changes we were able to gain control of his behaviour. I know it's not a one size fits all problem but there's another idea for you anyway.

    Good luck either way.
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    Have you looked into the DORE program?

    They help kids/people with behavioural problems

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    Definatly a specialist diagnosis is needed, & not from the GP. Many GP dispense this ritlin to kids that dont need it.

    Many things can cause acting out behaviour. It could be anything from the stress of moves and new schools, to food dyes.

    I was moved around so much and went to around 13 schools in 12 yrs. I had a few behavioural issues that came to a head from around age 12-14 now I am talking about punching out windows and stuff if I got frustrated.

    I wasnt ADHD just mighty pissed off with the world and unsettled in my environment.
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    Thanks guys

    He was diagnosed in 1st class by a peadiatrician ( sp?) as certainly showing signs hence the fish oil. He will be seeing another one for another assessment as well as a full medical.

    His diet has always concerned us , I dont see how he can function at all half the time on what he eats let alone do a day at school,but there again,short of placing him on steroid type meds or trycyclic type meds theres little I can do to improve that. He literaly vomits on his plate when made to eat things outside his box. He has been on vitamin/iron supplements for so long now.

    I certainly believe that the stress/fear/worry ofthe moves has had to have had an impact as had my health. But honestly it really seems to be a pattern emerging now with his lack of concentration and descision making skills. He acts out as did you Beau when he's unsure of new surroundings etc, he's a very short wired little guy and the more settled he becomes the more the anger seems to be controlled.Just never fully though.

    I dont know that the little I've gotten from the net has helped or made it worse .I know he fits pretty much all the specific 'symptons',but as has been said,so many other things can manifest themselves in the same way. I just wonder if it can happen over a matter of years though....this is one of the bits of info I'm lacking as well.

    His Cognitive test fell in the high risk zone and the parent questionare I justfilled out did not have a lot of questions that I couldn't say were him to a T.
    But my brain still fights it,is it possible to go so many years without us as parents actually getting to the point of saying "bloody medicate before I throttle" ( not literal-just a term )

    Still trolling the net and appreciate all of your input
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    Aspergers isn't "fixed" with medication. The anxiety and depression that sometimes go with it - might be relieved with medication, be really really careful which ones. ADHD meds do not help Aspergers kids (or adults).

    Disruption of routines will affect focus dramatically. Depending on how old your son is (over the age of 7), he will be able to tell you if he thinks the medication helps or makes things worse for him. If you could get some routines happening again and maybe some walking (for seratonin/anti anxiety) into the routine that could help. Also talking to him and addressing and answering each of his questions as best you can with the appropriate "I don't know" or "it's this way now but might change later if that happens", have a question and answer session at least once a day or as required as part of the routine.

    And a bit of mundane no thinking type exercise or work might help like housework or gardening or grooming the dogs helps in a similar way to meditation.

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    As far as I know anyone who gets more symptoms from Ritalin is not ADHD, the diagnosis is incorrect. If his dad didn't react well to it he might not either. But medication has come a long way since then.

    Take the internet with a grain of salt - and don't get too filled with info so you can't think straight!

    We nearly went down this road with our eldest, but got there eventually. Every kid is different though.

    Your recent upheavals will no doubt manifest in the kids for a while yet, don't rush things.


    Oh, and . You'll get there. I'm sure you'll know the right road to head down when you come to it.

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