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    But on a serious note, The local teacher here got caught stealing money from the school and touching one of the young boys. The young boy is one of my OH clients sons. Its pretty full on. We live in a small town and everyone knows everyone. The teacher was pretty high up at the school too.

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    He learnt that an entire creed/race of Tasmanian Aborigines were decimated here.
    Yep i remeber learning this at school

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Yes, it's all true. In fact, the last surviving Aborigine in Tassie was a female who died some years after the rest had been killed off. I can't think of her name at the moment.
    Yes, that is what son told me. He said there seemed to be some question behind her death, ie natural or suicide, but she was definately the last.

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    Thanks Peta.

    Anne, thank you very much for the link. Wow, I never learnt any of this history in school, but then again I've never been to school in Aus - that just occurred to me. Duh!

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    "decimated" means one in ten soldiers in an army have been killed.
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/decimated

    That might not seem like much, but for an army it is catastrophic. Imagine if one in ten of all the people you know got killed by something you could avoid if you wanted to, and think about how you would feel about that and what you might do about it.

    So to say that the aborigines of Tasmania were "decimated" and there are none left is a bit stupid. There would be 90% left, if that was linguistically correct.

    Midnight Oil made a song about Trugannini(Spelling) and called her the last Tasmanian Aborigine. She might have been the last full blood but there were plenty of her rellies left. I think most of them got banished to some Tasmanian Island, I forget which one. But they've gotten themselves organised and they are still here, and far from gone.

    There is no such thing as a genetically identifiable "race", not by DNA.

    I'm fairly sure I was taught that the Aborigines were primitive stone age people that white men were helping by "assimulation" ie fostering black kids with white families - back in 1972. I had no idea it wasn't voluntary. I would hope history lessons would have changed by now. I was also taught in school that white men's diseases caused a lot of problems along with taking kids away from their mothers, in about 1978 - so some progress there. Stolen Generation lessons - way ahead of their time with that teacher.

    Not sure about the mixing of Afghans and aborigines. I'm fairly sure there was a lot of mixing there and not just with the Aborigines.

    If it's a public school, I'm also fairly sure the teacher's union wouldn't mind knowing what this plonker is teaching.

    As a student - I didn't question much in the first couple of years, but after that I was a nightmare as far as asking teachers questions they ought to have known the answers to and didn't.

    Wasn't the 1960's the years of liberation for Women and Aborigines? There is no excuse for that kind of ancient attitude in class really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Yes, it's all true. In fact, the last surviving Aborigine in Tassie was a female who died some years after the rest had been killed off. I can't think of her name at the moment.
    Yes that is right. Also the fact that before white settlement, Asians and Islanders came to Australia especially the West Coast, traded with the local Aboriginals and also partnered with them. There are many Aboriginals with Asian/Islander blood. Also as Loren I think said they also became partners to Afghans and had mixed blood children. My great grandmother apparently was Aboriginal/Afghan.

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    As far as I know, and where is Puggerup when you need her, anyone who is part Aborigine is all Aborigine as far as Aborigines are concerned. And as far as "white people" were concerned up till quite recently - they tended to think the same thing, especially if the person looked "Aborigine".

    They're still here, and having lots of battles within their own community, sigh.
    http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/con...9/s2680858.htm
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 02-12-2010 at 05:48 PM.

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    Well I don't look Aborigine, the rest of the family look a bit that way as far as having very olive skin and black hair and dark eyes, I don't have any of these. We tend to think of ourselves as Rainbow people as we have so many different nationalities!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    "decimated" means one in ten soldiers in an army have been killed.
    Decimated - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    That might not seem like much, but for an army it is catastrophic. Imagine if one in ten of all the people you know got killed by something you could avoid if you wanted to, and think about how you would feel about that and what you might do about it.

    So to say that the aborigines of Tasmania were "decimated" and there are none left is a bit stupid. There would be 90% left, if that was linguistically correct.

    Midnight Oil made a song about Trugannini(Spelling) and called her the last Tasmanian Aborigine. She might have been the last full blood but there were plenty of her rellies left. I think most of them got banished to some Tasmanian Island, I forget which one. But they've gotten themselves organised and they are still here, and far from gone.

    There is no such thing as a genetically identifiable "race", not by DNA.

    I'm fairly sure I was taught that the Aborigines were primitive stone age people that white men were helping by "assimulation" ie fostering black kids with white families - back in 1972. I had no idea it wasn't voluntary. I would hope history lessons would have changed by now. I was also taught in school that white men's diseases caused a lot of problems along with taking kids away from their mothers, in about 1978 - so some progress there. Stolen Generation lessons - way ahead of their time with that teacher.

    Not sure about the mixing of Afghans and aborigines. I'm fairly sure there was a lot of mixing there and not just with the Aborigines.

    If it's a public school, I'm also fairly sure the teacher's union wouldn't mind knowing what this plonker is teaching.

    As a student - I didn't question much in the first couple of years, but after that I was a nightmare as far as asking teachers questions they ought to have known the answers to and didn't.

    Wasn't the 1960's the years of liberation for Women and Aborigines? There is no excuse for that kind of ancient attitude in class really.
    Well, following that post I will certainly be looking into this. If your post is correct in any way, Hy, that means everything they have just been taught yesterday is incorrect. After just asking him about it again, he stated that he thinks the word was decimated! Lol. he also stated that the lesson was adamant that all aborigines here died, down to the last remaining woman- who died many years later. He was also very clear and definate that they were taught about DNA testing that took place. VERY adamant. Even returned to look at his notes as well.

    Will comment further on that one after I have spoken to the school next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post

    There is no such thing as a genetically identifiable "race", not by DNA.

    I'm fairly sure I was taught that the Aborigines were primitive stone age people that white men were helping by "assimulation" ie fostering black kids with white families - back in 1972. I had no idea it wasn't voluntary. I would hope history lessons would have changed by now. I was also taught in school that white men's diseases caused a lot of problems along with taking kids away from their mothers, in about 1978 - so some progress there. Stolen Generation lessons - way ahead of their time with that teacher.

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    On the genetically identifiable "race" by DNA, there are tests through DNA that can show that a person has come from a certain race! This is how they found that polynesians came from the original natives of Taiwan and New Guineans.
    Aborigines were not primitive stone age people. Assimulation is a lie for taking people as slaves!

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