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    Default Something I Find Extremely Frustrating!

    I find it soooo frustrating when people critisise me for selling my birds for higher prices. Yes they are more expensive than most breeders but there is a reason why!

    For example we sell galahs for $300 - same as pet shop price BUT we make sure they are fed properly, dont sell them unweaned to complete nincompoops, test for PBFD, DNA sex, test for a whole range of diseases, have a health check done at the vet (costs $80 per bird) have nails and wings clipped (if buyer wants them done), we harness train them (harness is included in the price). We handle them everyday and socialise them with lots of birds, people and other animals and get them used to strange surroundings.

    Then on top of all that they are sold with a toy, a fortnights worth of their basic seed/pellet mix, a fortnights worth of soaking seed, a 10 page informational pack that is colour printed and bound and a health guarantee plus a baby book (of them growing up). We stay in contact with the people we sell to and answer all their questions. And they can come back for complimentary wing and nail trims and worming/delousing treatments free of charge!

    Id say that is better value for money than any pet shop/ bird shop in Perth !! We also offer a full purchase price buy back of the bird if their situation changes down the track - doesnt matter how long after they buy the bird or what condition it is in.

    Really we dont make any profit on these birds, if you think a harness costs $40, a health check costs $80, the DNA sexing, disease and PBFD check costs $100 PER BIRD we are spending $220 on each bird before we even add the food costs! Obviously we arent in it for the money lol!

    So when people come to me and say "arent you a breeder shouldnt you be charging less than what the pet shop does?" i get really really frustrated. Even when i go through the extras i offer they still think i charge to much.. generally i tell these people to get out and if they want a pet shop bird so much go and buy it from there.!

    I guess alot of registered dog breeders would get the same crap from people because they only want to pay the same amount as what youd pay for a back yard bred pup. Even though the registered breeder goes to way more effort and will sell very healthy, well socialised pups.

    Sorry Rant over hehe

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    If your birds are selling at a higher price, then tell them the proof is in the pudding. The market will predict what you charge.

    By the way, if you're not making money, then I would up your prices. Profit is not a dirty word for a responsible breeder of any animal, nor shoud it be in rescue.
    A pessimist sees the glass as half empty;
    An optimist sees the glass as half full;
    A realist just finishes the damn thing and refills it.

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    Thanks Anne, I always say you get what you pay but some people are a bit thick and think pet shops are more knowledgable - and hey that bondi vet program doesnt help matters when it comes to birds

    We make some profit of birds we sell as breeders, and some of the more expensive birds we breed and rear (black cockatoos) but as we rescue birds all the profit we make of the birds goes into vet surgery bills and food costs. When we get hit with a $1200 bill for a wing amputation i could die! food isnt cheap either!

    The trouble over here is that you can buy a handraised pink and grey galah from someone whos nicked it out of the tree and fed it runny weet bix and cheap parrot mix until weaning for $100, people dont care that they will most likely have a bird with health/ behavioural problems later on - its a cheap bird!

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    Then they can let it go and try again!

    Well done on raising yours right. Too many people take on cockatoos and galahs without a second thought and can't manage them. $300 is cheap for a really good one, they do live a very loooong time. Maybe people forget that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meegz View Post
    I find it soooo frustrating when people critisise me for selling my birds for higher prices. Yes they are more expensive than most breeders but there is a reason why!

    For example we sell galahs for $300 - same as pet shop price BUT we make sure they are fed properly, dont sell them unweaned to complete nincompoops, test for PBFD, DNA sex, test for a whole range of diseases, have a health check done at the vet (costs $80 per bird) have nails and wings clipped (if buyer wants them done), we harness train them (harness is included in the price). We handle them everyday and socialise them with lots of birds, people and other animals and get them used to strange surroundings.

    Then on top of all that they are sold with a toy, a fortnights worth of their basic seed/pellet mix, a fortnights worth of soaking seed, a 10 page informational pack that is colour printed and bound and a health guarantee plus a baby book (of them growing up). We stay in contact with the people we sell to and answer all their questions. And they can come back for complimentary wing and nail trims and worming/delousing treatments free of charge!

    Id say that is better value for money than any pet shop/ bird shop in Perth !! We also offer a full purchase price buy back of the bird if their situation changes down the track - doesnt matter how long after they buy the bird or what condition it is in.

    Really we dont make any profit on these birds, if you think a harness costs $40, a health check costs $80, the DNA sexing, disease and PBFD check costs $100 PER BIRD we are spending $220 on each bird before we even add the food costs! Obviously we arent in it for the money lol!

    So when people come to me and say "arent you a breeder shouldnt you be charging less than what the pet shop does?" i get really really frustrated. Even when i go through the extras i offer they still think i charge to much.. generally i tell these people to get out and if they want a pet shop bird so much go and buy it from there.!

    I guess alot of registered dog breeders would get the same crap from people because they only want to pay the same amount as what youd pay for a back yard bred pup. Even though the registered breeder goes to way more effort and will sell very healthy, well socialised pups.

    Sorry Rant over hehe
    Nice thread - some good stuff to consider.

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    I agree, you are a dedicated breeder & I would not hesitate to buy from you, pity you are so far away

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    Ahhh, this is right up my alley. I have 3 birds (cockatiels, have had others through the years) and am on a few bird forums.

    Finding a breeder like you would be a dream come true. The people there are the same as here, anti pet shop, anti bird mill.

    Ignore what people say, you KNOW you are doing it exactly right.
    You know the needs of birds..they don't just exist on seed in a barren cage. They need a varied diet to promote longevity, avoid liver and kidney problems.
    Toys...how many aussies really consider toys, foraging, enrichment is needed at all for something that traditionally sits alone in a corner...ugggghhhhhhh.
    Mine have regular out of cage time (cats and dogs outside, doors locked) veges, sprouts,grains and pellets in their diet and I make toys for them, they love to SHRED.

    Money...what money, all you spend on their rearing and vet care is not going to make you rich.


    You rock!

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    Sounds like very good value to me!!

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    Yup, sounds like good value to me too!

    Dont have any contacts in NSW by any chance? FIL loves birds and lost his beloved talking lorrie a while ago, would love to find a breeder like you over here!

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    Thanks for your support guys. I had another person start on me today about it GRRRR! i just hung up the phone on them in the end after trying to explain to them why they cost that much and they still tried to make offers.

    Leo ill have a chat to a few people for you i know some great people over in NSW with birdies

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