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    Thank you, Cleasanta.

    I don't think Anne is in any way trying to make me look like a fool. Only I could choose to do that to myself, and I don't wish to nor do I feel I have done.

    I honestly thought I could have a thread like this where ppl could discuss how it is we get so argumentive about each others comments. How we can say things that don't sound good to others, yet we all notice when others say things that don't come across that nicely.

    If I was wrong and I can't even manage to do that, then I must say I have NFI why I am bothering being here in the first place.

    Yes Anne, racked off means angry, pissed off, annoyed, a mulititude of things to me. And no, I don't feel like that very often. And yes, I do feel like that towards myself if I have said or done something that in hindsight perhaps I shouldn't have said or done.

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    I m not trying to make anyone look foolish. I am merely hoping for transperancy and honesty and, also expressing my thoughts on this thread. I am not concerned as to the direction, it is clearly stated it is a thread for discussion isn't it?

    My last post may seem confusing. I will try to clarify it.

    Devils Advocate, in response to my stating that this thread was initiated by her as a reaction to my post in the cat thread, stated in her last post;
    Yes, your comment made me think, absolutely. Then I checked another thread that I had posted in late last night, and a comment in that thread was what prompted me to instigate this one. For your information, the comment that concerned me was actually posted BY ME!Reading it again today, I realised that the OP could possibly take it VERY differently to how I meant it. Food for thought for me, and IMO many others should do too.

    The part I have underlined should see you begin to understand my post.

    Devil's Advocate was clearly annoyed by what she perceives are people who do not understand written language and who, consequently, react and make assumptions about things that are stated. This in turn obviously cause squabbles which makes her feel 'racked off'.

    I've responded in a manner believing that the thread was as a direct reaction to me 'assuming something that was not written' in another thread.

    Devil's advocate has denied this thread was as a reaction to me and my comments and instead has stated (or so it seems to me) that she was actually driven to create this thread after reading her own comments and realising that she could have been misinterpreted. She states clearly that the comment that actually concerned her was written by herself.

    Personally, I find the claim that the thread was not related to my comments in the cat thread, but instead was inspired by the OP being angry at themselves, to be laughable.

    By all means, Devils Advocate has every right to disagree with me. Pedantic I may be, argumentative I certainly am, but I am always open and honest which is what I feel is missing here.

    The final purpose of my continued argument now is to have Devils Advocate speak the thruth, not to belittle them or emabrrass them.

    I am still a little perplexed as to why the heading of the thread is: The thread for hypocrits? But, seeing how this has panned out, I can see that the hypocrisy is indeed being shown, and not by me.

    I am not angry, I am not revengeful, I just hope that Devils Advocate will be honest with themselves and the rest of us. This thread was nothing but a drama filled cop out and a way in which he/she could express their frustation. That's fine. I wouldn't have continued had they acknowledged my earlier statements as being correct. It was the denial that now sees me continue to follow through.
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    GoodiesGirl, I am sorry that this thread stresses you. Up until now, I had thought I was having a debate and I didn't think it was somethig to be stressed about. As I said, I think my strong writing style seems to unsettle some.

    However, I have now been directed by the OP to leave the thread. I find that directive to be rude, however I will leave as the thread is a mockery to be honest. People need to be open and honest with their intentions and they need to accept that not everyone will agree or like what they say. Providing the debate remains without personal attacks there should be no objections. Obviously, some feel different though or simply do not understand how to debate.
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    This is what I am trying to point out...

    "I have now been directed by the OP to leave the thread."

    My words were that "I kindly ask you to refrain from entering this thread." I ASKED, not DIRECTED.

    Oh what's the point???? *sigh*

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    Anne,

    I have never ever had a problem with you, and it is not this thread that stresses me out, its the whole damn attitude of this forum lately! Why should we need to debate things like this? Why can't we all just do what we are here to do and stop slinging insults?
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    mmmm OK ,personaly I don't see what all this hoo haa is about concerning the forum of late ? There have been a couple of little blowouts but nothing catastrophic .
    Cant expect to be a part of a forum without accepting that there will always be disagreements.

    I havn't seen the thread/post that Anne speaks of so I cant comment on that yet.
    But DA I truley feel you knew where this thread was going to end up when you started it.

    There a couple of people here that are very up front and quite blunt,but that is no reason to take offence .Instead,if its not said directly to you or your name is mentioned then why should it be cause for drama full stop?

    There have been a few little 'baits' thrown out in the last few days but it was a pleasure to see that they were politely ignored ( or it went clean over heads )


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    But Choppa, I like tip toeing through the tulips - we have a lot of them down here. I prefer to do that than wallow in the mud.

    Contrary to what you think, no I did not feel it would go this way AT ALL! I thought ppl would come in with comments regarding different ways to say things, and how we all need to learn to practice what we preach and so on.

    If anything this thread has taught me that a forum is not the nicest place to be spending one's time. Well, not unless one has very thick skin and couldn't give a **** what anyone else thinks of them. Unfortunately, that's not me.

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    ok...as to what the thread was supposed to be about...I think arguments start when people misread...misinterpret...overreact or are too touchy. They also start when people deliberately attack a person for whatever reason.

    It is IMPOSSIBLE for all of us to agree, but there are for sure ways to say things and ways NOT to say things. Sure...I have been guilty of that...you react...you explode and words are written. You still believe in your words, but can see that there possibly were other ways you could have said it...without being hurtful.

    Look...everybody are entitled to their opinion. Some of us have REALLY strong opinions regarding certain things eg BYB etc. We might not be "old timers" here in this Forum...but we have just as much a right to state our opinons and engage in conversations. But from what I can understand...these "problems" have been here for a while now.

    There is a certain "tone" in some posts...or a "feeling" I am left with after reading them that just make me want to go AARRGGHHHHH. Sometimes I simply ignore them because it is not worth it, but other times I simply can not stay quiet. I just want to scream...get off your high horse, will ya?!?

    I don't try to be perfect...I don't try and ram things down peoples throat...I don't intentionally set out to hurt people. That is not to say that some of my comments won't "hurt" the person reading them. I guess that is what makes us different...we take things different.

    It is not possible for all of us to get along. It is possible however to THINK about what we write and how we write it. Maybe it is time to think to yourself...what will I achieve with this post? How does it sound when I read it? Have I made this post to simply try and cause trouble? How do you think the other person will react?

    We don't have a right to tell other people how to react...we don't have a right to belittle them...we don't have a right to intentionally try and make them feel less than they are.

    Just my opinion anywaaaaaaays....................

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    It is not possible for all of us to get along. It is possible however to THINK about what we write and how we write it. Maybe it is time to think to yourself...what will I achieve with this post? How does it sound when I read it? Have I made this post to simply try and cause trouble? How do you think the other person will react?

    That paragraph words it perfectly IMO, Dorte. If everyone just thought about those few points, I think there would be less people leaving; less people sitting in the wings reading but too scared to post; less people posting once then running for the hills after seeing the replies...and on and on it goes.

    Now, why couldn't I have thought to put it like that???????? *pokes tongues at Cleasanta*

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    And that also explains 100% how irate at myself I am for a post I did last night. Looking at it this morning, it read differently to what I meant to say. It looked offensive actually, and degratory, yet it sure didn't occur to me ATT to re-read it. I think I shall from now on. It is also hard to ignore posts where it seems ppl are just being un-necessarily nasty.

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