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    And do you have the strength GSD's, to end it if that is the final decision made during the next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disneygotpierced View Post
    Oh, I sincerely apologize if you thought I was mocking. I honestly don't know anything about this form of training, I was just making guesses. What sorts of things do the dogs learn to do? Or is it more of a psychological thing between the dog and the owner? Trust exercises etc.

    Again, I really do apologize. My intention was certainly not to mock what you do. I have a lot of admiration for having the patience to do that kind of intense training with a dog. My Terry could sit, come, stay, and shut up.

    Another question (may sound stupid but isn't intended rudely)
    Is it like horse dressage? Jumps, doing things a certain way?
    Well then, I'll continue. I guess in a way it's like "dressage" in that human & beast develop a working relationship. The foundation of a good working relationship is all built on trust.

    My last working dog ("Zena") & I had a wonderful understanding of each other. Our relationship was built on mutual respect & love for each other as individuals. When we worked in a trialling ring & were "in the zone", we were "poetry in motion" to watch. People who I never knew came to stand outside the ring watch this dog work ... she was that good. Once all the training & preparation work was done & we stepped into a ring to be tested by a judge, Zena was the star. I was merely her handler ... just her guide to direct her in a heeling pattern ... to indicate when to jump an obstacle, retrieve a dumbell, find an article, go to the box. None it would have happened without her willingness to perform the tasks I asked of her .... my respect for her to follow my instructions & her respect for me to complete the exercise.

    Spirit has the makings of a good Obedience trialling dog. We (Spirit & I) are currently working on our partnership. This requires determination, patience, a firm hand in training & a lot of love on my part. Spirit needs to learn respect for me & trust in the working partnership. When we both get our act together we'll turn heads & make it look so very simple when we step into a ring together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSDs4Ever View Post
    Well then, I'll continue. I guess in a way it's like "dressage" in that human & beast develop a working relationship. The foundation of a good working relationship is all built on trust.

    My last working dog ("Zena") & I had a wonderful understanding of each other. Our relationship was built on mutual respect & love for each other as individuals. When we worked in a trialling ring & were "in the zone", we were "poetry in motion" to watch. People who I never knew came to stand outside the ring watch this dog work ... she was that good. Once all the training & preparation work was done & we stepped into a ring to be tested by a judge, Zena was the star. I was merely her handler ... just her guide to direct her in a heeling pattern ... to indicate when to jump an obstacle, retrieve a dumbell, find an article, go to the box. None it would have happened without her willingness to perform the tasks I asked of her .... my respect for her to follow my instructions & her respect for me to complete the exercise.

    Spirit has the makings of a good Obedience trialling dog. We (Spirit & I) are currently working on our partnership. This requires determination, patience, a firm hand in training & a lot of love on my part. Spirit needs to learn respect for me & trust in the working partnership. When we both get our act together we'll turn heads & make it look so very simple when we step into a ring together.
    That must require a lot of dedication! Do you perform at dog shows? Or is it different to when they judge breed standards etc?

    I'm assuming (I consider it an educated guess ) that this takes years of effort. Do you have time set out of the day to train or is it merely incorporated into your daily routine? Or both?

    Do you compete against other breeds or is each show restricted to GSDs, Labs, or yorkies etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    And do you have the strength GSD's, to end it if that is the final decision made during the next year?
    Yes I do DA. Screaming hysterically into that wash cloth to muffle the sound so my girls wouldn't be stressed by my primal screaming was a "watershed" moment for me. I hadn't experienced such pain & intense rage for quite a long time. He had seen what I'd been through with my last partner as we worked together at the time. He was disgusted by how I had been treated ...... .... Here I am 20 years later, clearly having learned nothing about setting boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSDs4Ever View Post
    Yes I do DA. Screaming hysterically into that wash cloth to muffle the sound so my girls wouldn't be stressed by my primal screaming was a "watershed" moment for me. I hadn't experienced such pain & intense rage for quite a long time. He had seen what I'd been through with my last partner as we worked together at the time. He was disgusted by how I had been treated ...... .... Here I am 20 years later, clearly having learned nothing about setting boundaries.
    Ok. I understand the intense rage. Oh boy oh boy do I.
    I have come to the conclusion that men are ****ing morons. Simple as that.
    Your situation is helping me to see that I must do something about my own. Things cannot continue as they are.
    I am following you more closely with this than you could imagine, GSD's.

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    hows it hanging gsd? i hope youhad a good x mas and i hope you have a good happy new year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disneygotpierced View Post
    That must require a lot of dedication! Do you perform at dog shows? Or is it different to when they judge breed standards etc?

    I'm assuming (I consider it an educated guess ) that this takes years of effort. Do you have time set out of the day to train or is it merely incorporated into your daily routine? Or both?

    Do you compete against other breeds or is each show restricted to GSDs, Labs, or yorkies etc?
    Yes, it takes a lot of dedication. With Obedience, you could say "Many are called, but few are chosen". To explain ... my Tara comes from one of the top breeders in Victoria, but she doesn't look like stepping into a trial ring any time soon in at least the next 2 to 3 years. She may never be ready. Spirit showed promise from a few weeks after arriving at my home.

    I don't show my dogs. Showing is a completely different discipline.

    Yes, it takes years of dedicated work to prepare a dog for Obedience trial work. The hardest task is to gain the dog's love, trust & total respect for you as their leader & master. And the dog will know if you're lying or your heart isn't in it. That's why I was gutted when Zena left me & why I'm taking my time about committing to Spirit in a working partnership. I have to give 100% of myself if I am to expect the same of her ...

    For Obedience trialling, it's open to all dogs ... pure breeds or mutts. In a ring you'll get everything from Poodles to Beagles & doggies you can't pick their lineage.

    Training schedule depends on the dog. Once I taught Zena the routine for the title we were working on, she only needed "brushing up" just before a trial. Other that, I just had fun with her as my regular companion & spoilt her with a lot of love. Spirit is a totally different kettle of fish. She needs structured work every day otherwise she gets feral. I'm already teaching her some exercises from the very advanced titles ... and she's thriving on them. Meanwhile, my beautiful Tara is still lunging on her lead, arcing up & refusing to walk gently at my left hand side & nicks off to see all the dogs in class the minute I let her off to do some off lead work. She's just a 'late bloomer' with a mind of her own & "work" with Mother is the last thing she has any inclination or enthusiasm for. *sigh*

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    Wow GSD I honestly don't know what to say, I am so floored by that! May I ask what made you decide GSD's were 'your breed?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Ok. I understand the intense rage. Oh boy oh boy do I.
    I have come to the conclusion that men are ****ing morons. Simple as that.
    Your situation is helping me to see that I must do something about my own. Things cannot continue as they are.
    I am following you more closely with this than you could imagine, GSD's.
    I told you that we are "joined at the hip" psychically .... I enjoy our chats. It's therapy for both of us I guess ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kassie jones View Post
    hows it hanging gsd? i hope youhad a good x mas and i hope you have a good happy new year
    Hiya Kass !!! Thanks for your lovely wishes. Much appreciated Sweetie.

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